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11-30-2018, 04:17 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: 777, sofa
Posts: 1,183
Originally Posted by GolferNJ
I agree with this. Unfortunately, we just gave up 3-days transfer days (every 18 months) and conflict bidding for this. None of which was presented for a vote! It's hard to ask for a change of the contract when the MEC is unilaterally making changes in the midst of contract negotiations.
Originally Posted by baseball
Maybe get a do-over???
Sometimes we need to know both the devil and the details to find the devil in the details. Clearly, we didn't negotiate anything worthwhile and it appears we actually gave up something and got nothing in return. OOPS!
Sometimes we need to know both the devil and the details to find the devil in the details. Clearly, we didn't negotiate anything worthwhile and it appears we actually gave up something and got nothing in return. OOPS!
Originally Posted by baseball
We could challenge the legality of this. Can't negotiate something that changes the pay and benefits in a significant manner without a pilot vote. CBL issue. We could take it to the DoL.
I used my 3 transfer days when I was a new hire. No problem. How often do YOU change domiciles that you need more than 3 days every 18 months? Because I assure you, out of the 12000+ pilots on property those affected by this issue are far fewer than say, satellite bases. Or even getting intercoms on guppies. You're not even the 1%. You're the .1%.
Nothing worthwhile for you? I don't even know what conflict bidding is. Or was. I see that dang "C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" message probably every time I try to trip trade.
My pay is not affected by this in any negative way. What is significant to you? Because I'm gonna go way out on a limb and guess its not significant to anything like 5% of the group.
Ha ha ha. just kidding. I don't really care. Its nice to get rid of that 50 hour nonsense. The other stuff doesn't affect me at all. But you guys are getting all frothy over a nothing sandwich. Take a breath.
12-02-2018, 04:45 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: 737/FO
Posts: 195
When does the LOA go into effect then? I tried to pick up and still see this message...
"C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" Explanation: indicates that the trade will reduce a Pilot’s F + NF hours below 50 for a bid period. This rule checks BOTH pilots’s calendars, so the trade wouldn’t cause your hours to drop below 50 then it is likely that it would cause an issue with the other pilots calendar.
I have no other conflicts for this trip I’m trying to pick up and it’s almost two weeks out. No other issues I can see. There are others senior to me who desire it also, but aren’t getting it either. Hmmm, did I miss an implementation date for when the no dropping below 50 hrs in a bid period goes away?
All arguments aside regarding whether or not we should have voted, If our union gave up something for us to get us something when do the trip trade computer programs delete this restriction and give it back?
"C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" Explanation: indicates that the trade will reduce a Pilot’s F + NF hours below 50 for a bid period. This rule checks BOTH pilots’s calendars, so the trade wouldn’t cause your hours to drop below 50 then it is likely that it would cause an issue with the other pilots calendar.
I have no other conflicts for this trip I’m trying to pick up and it’s almost two weeks out. No other issues I can see. There are others senior to me who desire it also, but aren’t getting it either. Hmmm, did I miss an implementation date for when the no dropping below 50 hrs in a bid period goes away?
All arguments aside regarding whether or not we should have voted, If our union gave up something for us to get us something when do the trip trade computer programs delete this restriction and give it back?
Originally Posted by robthree
I used my 3 transfer days when I was a new hire. No problem. How often do YOU change domiciles that you need more than 3 days every 18 months? Because I assure you, out of the 12000+ pilots on property those affected by this issue are far fewer than say, satellite bases. Or even getting intercoms on guppies. You're not even the 1%. You're the .1%.
Nothing worthwhile for you? I don't even know what conflict bidding is. Or was. I see that dang "C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" message probably every time I try to trip trade.
My pay is not affected by this in any negative way. What is significant to you? Because I'm gonna go way out on a limb and guess its not significant to anything like 5% of the group.
Ha ha ha. just kidding. I don't really care. Its nice to get rid of that 50 hour nonsense. The other stuff doesn't affect me at all. But you guys are getting all frothy over a nothing sandwich. Take a breath.
Nothing worthwhile for you? I don't even know what conflict bidding is. Or was. I see that dang "C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" message probably every time I try to trip trade.
My pay is not affected by this in any negative way. What is significant to you? Because I'm gonna go way out on a limb and guess its not significant to anything like 5% of the group.
Ha ha ha. just kidding. I don't really care. Its nice to get rid of that 50 hour nonsense. The other stuff doesn't affect me at all. But you guys are getting all frothy over a nothing sandwich. Take a breath.
12-02-2018, 09:24 AM
#23
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 1,029
Originally Posted by Sixty N Two
When does the LOA go into effect then? I tried to pick up and still see this message...
"C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" Explanation: indicates that the trade will reduce a Pilot’s F + NF hours below 50 for a bid period. This rule checks BOTH pilots’s calendars, so the trade wouldn’t cause your hours to drop below 50 then it is likely that it would cause an issue with the other pilots calendar.
I have no other conflicts for this trip I’m trying to pick up and it’s almost two weeks out. No other issues I can see. There are others senior to me who desire it also, but aren’t getting it either. Hmmm, did I miss an implementation date for when the no dropping below 50 hrs in a bid period goes away?
All arguments aside regarding whether or not we should have voted, If our union gave up something for us to get us something when do the trip trade computer programs delete this restriction and give it back?
"C75 TTL F+NF < MINIMUM - This error checks both pilot's calendars" Explanation: indicates that the trade will reduce a Pilot’s F + NF hours below 50 for a bid period. This rule checks BOTH pilots’s calendars, so the trade wouldn’t cause your hours to drop below 50 then it is likely that it would cause an issue with the other pilots calendar.
I have no other conflicts for this trip I’m trying to pick up and it’s almost two weeks out. No other issues I can see. There are others senior to me who desire it also, but aren’t getting it either. Hmmm, did I miss an implementation date for when the no dropping below 50 hrs in a bid period goes away?
All arguments aside regarding whether or not we should have voted, If our union gave up something for us to get us something when do the trip trade computer programs delete this restriction and give it back?
12-03-2018, 07:25 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,160
Originally Posted by robthree
Ha ha ha. just kidding. I don't really care. Its nice to get rid of that 50 hour nonsense. The other stuff doesn't affect me at all. But you guys are getting all frothy over a nothing sandwich. Take a breath.
I recall you getting very upset on another thread about my lack of concern over an issue you felt was extremely important. I had viewed the issue you were upset about as a 'nothing sandwich'.
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