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Originally Posted by IAHB756
(Post 2759374)
That sounded a tad too positive for APC. We don’t know what to do with posts like this. I’m not comfortable with this.....
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Is it just me or am I crazy to think they could get people flying RJ’s for $20k a year again as long as they were on a mainline list? At least for a few years anyway.
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Originally Posted by FLYMIA
(Post 2759478)
Is it just me or am I crazy to think they could get people flying RJ’s for $20k a year again as long as they were on a mainline list? At least for a few years anyway.
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Originally Posted by Photoflier
(Post 2759192)
At what weight? Max gross? Remember that the CRJ550 won’t weigh the same as the CRJ700. So it won’t burn as much gas.
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Originally Posted by jendrud757
(Post 2759358)
I think it sounds like a great idea...I have to imagine they ran the revenue vs cost numbers on this before they committed. No other airline is doing this and we have been complaining since I’ve been here (1997) that United never does anything original. We’ll see how it works out but the aircraft orders & new routes have been encouraging so far. I lived through the “shrink to profitability” times and this is very different.
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Haha, Comair did something similar years ago with the “40-seater” (CR4). They pulled 10 seats out of a CRJ200, built a big closet and carried 40pax. Bombardier even delivered new ones like that. It didnt last very long.
The irony is I think those old CR7’s at GoJet that will be converted to 550’s are old Comair (CA) planes, lol. |
Originally Posted by sleeves
(Post 2759598)
United has had some original Ideas. I remember MGT. was gonna start a private jet service around the year 2000...someone must of let that guy out of the basement again.
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Originally Posted by awax
(Post 2759635)
The name was Avolar, it was 2008, and the guy was Stuart Oran
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on the serious side...Management has likely game planned this out.
What do you think of this possibility? Bring on this new jet and configure it to comply with scope. Result: RASM and PRASM, and other economic metrics are simply ignored in the short term so that management can be in position to make a long term play. Another words, management is happy to lose money for 3 to 7 years if they can find a way to reconfigure the jets and/or similar jets later on if they can find a way to get around scope and/or kick the can so long they force the pilots to capitulate and give up scope. I think this CRJ 550 or whatever they are calling it is a long term and not a short term play. Sorta like ISIS has a 2000 year plan, Kirby has a 30 year plan and this is phase one. |
Bringing this jet on is a clear indication that we will get no contract, at all, ever.
Since contracts simply become amendable and don't expire, there is no way to force management to meet our demands, and there is no way for management to force us to meet their demands....except one thing. In 20 years we will want pay improvements, etc. Another words, management writes the checks. I hope ALPA realizes the new RJ play is a long term strategic play by management to reshape the negotiations and apply leverage to drive results in their favor. |
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