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Old 02-11-2019, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor View Post
Anyone take issue with captains who insist on staying until all passengers exit on the last flight of the day? Even on an 11 hour overnight?
No, that is called customer service.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PDRit View Post
If you were taught by scabs you act like a scab. See above.
How funny, those were the guys actually doing it that turned me off from emulating them.

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Ass-hat. Classy. Nice mentoring.

You ARE getting paid. Unless it’s the last leg you’re getting Per Diem.
Wow, per diem, had no idea I was being paid so much to hang around. But really gang, not one of you can tell me why you won’t do this on your own time and let the other Pilot be on his way? What’s so difficult about that?

I don’t have a problem with anyone doing this but you do become an “ass-hat” when you punish your fellow aviator by holding him hostage due to your own rudeness.

Call me a scab, lousy mentor whatever floats your boat but you’re the one the F/O’s are grousing about, not me.
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Old 02-11-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD View Post
As a passenger I can attest to the fact that in the era of long lines at security, crowded gates and packed flights, and the often-times miserable traveling experience many people have, it is really refreshing when pilots greet you either when boarding or deplaning with a smile welcoming you or thanking you for flying with them.

I recently flew and as I boarded I mentioned to the FA that it was my son’s first flight. They were so excited. The flights was completely full and despite that they still took the time before take off to let me know that the pilots would love to meet him after landing. Sure enough as we deplaned the pilots invited us into the flight deck and let my son sit in the left seat. The FO even took pictures of us with my phone for memories. It was an evening flight and I could tell the pilots were tired and we were so appreciative of those few minutes they were willing to spend with us. My son will never forget that experience.

So we definitely understand the rigors of your jobs and that you need to hit it sometimes soon after you land, but please know that many passengers really do respect you guys and what you do. In fact, it feels a little odd when you thank us for flying with you when it’s you all who get us where we need to go safely. So I will usually thank the pilots as I leave.
Thanks, Counselor! Our F/As appreciate your kind words as much as we pilots do.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD View Post
As a passenger I can attest to the fact that in the era of long lines at security, crowded gates and packed flights, and the often-times miserable traveling experience many people have, it is really refreshing when pilots greet you either when boarding or deplaning with a smile welcoming you or thanking you for flying with them.

I recently flew and as I boarded I mentioned to the FA that it was my son’s first flight. They were so excited. The flights was completely full and despite that they still took the time before take off to let me know that the pilots would love to meet him after landing. Sure enough as we deplaned the pilots invited us into the flight deck and let my son sit in the left seat. The FO even took pictures of us with my phone for memories. It was an evening flight and I could tell the pilots were tired and we were so appreciative of those few minutes they were willing to spend with us. My son will never forget that experience.

So we definitely understand the rigors of your jobs and that you need to hit it sometimes soon after you land, but please know that many passengers really do respect you guys and what you do. In fact, it feels a little odd when you thank us for flying with you when it’s you all who get us where we need to go safely. So I will usually thank the pilots as I leave.
This is why we say "Thank You" and "Good Night". We need these customers to keep coming back. Anyone who thinks we as pilots don't have a customer service responsibility like agents & FAs needs to reassess.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver View Post
Never answered my question Mr.Bug. Why not compromise and only do it when it doesn’t effect the other Pilot?

Would love to hear an actual response to that.
I'm not going to answer the questions of somebody who calls me an ass-hat for servant leadership. (It ain't all about the FO)

You and I have probably flown together. I've got over 5000 hours in the right seat of IAH 757's. We probably got along well. But you want to come on some forum and call me names and demand answers?

Screw that.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD View Post
As a passenger I can attest to the fact that in the era of long lines at security, crowded gates and packed flights, and the often-times miserable traveling experience many people have, it is really refreshing when pilots greet you either when boarding or deplaning with a smile welcoming you or thanking you for flying with them.

I recently flew and as I boarded I mentioned to the FA that it was my son’s first flight. They were so excited. The flights was completely full and despite that they still took the time before take off to let me know that the pilots would love to meet him after landing. Sure enough as we deplaned the pilots invited us into the flight deck and let my son sit in the left seat. The FO even took pictures of us with my phone for memories. It was an evening flight and I could tell the pilots were tired and we were so appreciative of those few minutes they were willing to spend with us. My son will never forget that experience.

So we definitely understand the rigors of your jobs and that you need to hit it sometimes soon after you land, but please know that many passengers really do respect you guys and what you do. In fact, it feels a little odd when you thank us for flying with you when it’s you all who get us where we need to go safely. So I will usually thank the pilots as I leave.
I did that too once at the gate in SFO. I took 5 minutes, 6 tops. Put both kids in the pilot seats and let the mom take pics. Once they were off, I saw one FA roll her eyes at what I'd done. All 3 FAs have to stay on the plane until the last pax is off. It was also the last leg and the end of their trip (us 2 pilots were going to the hotel). As far as I know they were all local and not trying to make any flights. Oh well. Can't win 'em all.

What I will say is the aviation bug bit me and it was because of those pilots before me that allowed me to sit in their seat as a kid after the flight. I simply did (and will continue to do) what others had done to me and hope that it also inspires someone some day.
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Old 02-11-2019, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I did that too once at the gate in SFO. I took 5 minutes, 6 tops. Put both kids in the pilot seats and let the mom take pics. Once they were off, I saw one FA roll her eyes at what I'd done. All 3 FAs have to stay on the plane until the last pax is off. It was also the last leg and the end of their trip (us 2 pilots were going to the hotel). As far as I know they were all local and not trying to make any flights. Oh well. Can't win 'em all.



What I will say is the aviation bug bit me and it was because of those pilots before me that allowed me to sit in their seat as a kid after the flight. I simply did (and will continue to do) what others had done to me and hope that it also inspires someone some day.


^This^

Same thing happened to me when I was 6, only in an F-4 Phantom. That was the day I decided I wanted to be a fighter pilot.

You can literally spark a kid’s dream. So worth it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:09 PM
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Was in JAX one night, waiting to board. There was this kid by himself, looking sad. I asked him if he wanted to see the cockpit. He did. I thought nothing of it. A week later I got a letter from an ATL pastor. The pastor said that there had been family trouble and the cockpit trip had brightened the kid's day. So much so he had made a sermon out of it. (DAL pilots in the flock.) I thought, just that little bit of my time had snowballed into an hour on Sunday. Some days it is worth it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by baronbvp View Post
^This^

Same thing happened to me when I was 6, only in an F-4 Phantom. That was the day I decided I wanted to be a fighter pilot.

You can literally spark a kid’s dream. So worth it.
I flew the Phantom, and always let people sit in the jet at airshows....Airplane geeks, kids, and hot moms. Why? Because that would have been the best thing EVER when I was a kid.

I would have loved the same thing in an airliner when travelling...didn’t get to, until a stopover when I was in college...just chatting with the FO. He made the whole pilot dream seem achievable.

Thanks baron, for validating what I was trying to do!

Badflaps: fantastic story. It doesn’t take much to make a difference in a day, or a life.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jDSTJD View Post
As a passenger I can attest to the fact that in the era of long lines at security, crowded gates and packed flights, and the often-times miserable traveling experience many people have, it is really refreshing when pilots greet you either when boarding or deplaning with a smile welcoming you or thanking you for flying with them.

I recently flew and as I boarded I mentioned to the FA that it was my son’s first flight. They were so excited. The flights was completely full and despite that they still took the time before take off to let me know that the pilots would love to meet him after landing. Sure enough as we deplaned the pilots invited us into the flight deck and let my son sit in the left seat. The FO even took pictures of us with my phone for memories. It was an evening flight and I could tell the pilots were tired and we were so appreciative of those few minutes they were willing to spend with us. My son will never forget that experience.

So we definitely understand the rigors of your jobs and that you need to hit it sometimes soon after you land, but please know that many passengers really do respect you guys and what you do. In fact, it feels a little odd when you thank us for flying with you when it’s you all who get us where we need to go safely. So I will usually thank the pilots as I leave.
That’s a great story. When I was about 7 years old, I had a similar experience. I knew After having sat in that DC-9 seat what I wanted to do for a living so I’d say it had an impact on me as well.
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