737 MAX grounded
#322
Maybe they could lease out a multilevel parking garage at SEA and tow them over. Free up more space in their employee parking lot.
#324
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There is a lot of bashing of the MAX. But the truth is, the plane is efficient and nice to fly on as well (it is much quieter than the older model). Once the MCAS situation gets worked out, it will be back in the air making money for decades. It will also be one of the safest planes flying.
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Unless a bunch of other airplanes lawn dart themselves it won’t be the safest airplane flying, and people under estimate the memory of the collective public. Dr Dao lasted what, a week? That chit still gets brought up. We’re talking about a stalwart narrow body American product being of grounded because of cost and corner cutting by McBoeing Douglass mgmt. They won’t forget.
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I was an early defender of the max, but Boeing really messed this thing up. People haven’t forgotten the Dr. Dao incident, but they still buy tickets. The max deal will most likely prove my theory that the consumer may not forget, but for the right price they will overlook even this. The max will be back, the company may have to run some cheap seats for a while, but the planes will be full and the max will be on our ramp for a long time.
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Unless a bunch of other airplanes lawn dart themselves it won’t be the safest airplane flying, and people under estimate the memory of the collective public. Dr Dao lasted what, a week? That chit still gets brought up. We’re talking about a stalwart narrow body American product being of grounded because of cost and corner cutting by McBoeing Douglass mgmt. They won’t forget.
This is about crew training and lack of flying skills as much as it is about Boeing messing this thing up. The 737 as a whole is already one of safest airframes in history. The Max accidents will not change this. Fact is, Boeing did this entire MCAS fubar in order to protect pilots that should not be in the cockpit to begin with from crashing. It is unfortunate but automation and lack of training for real flying has taken us to this point. Boeing totally messed this up and continues to mismanage to a large degree. But once it does get back in the air, it WILL be one of the safest planes flying..... except for the continued lack of basic airmanship that is sitting in the seat.
The public will fly them. Cost is king... they look for the lowest price and buy. Boeing will remove the MAX name and move on. So will the public.
#330
While I agree Boeing messed this thing up. The fact is, no "Western" operator had a Max crash. None...
This is about crew training and lack of flying skills as much as it is about Boeing messing this thing up. The 737 as a whole is already one of safest airframes in history. The Max accidents will not change this. Fact is, Boeing did this entire MCAS fubar in order to protect pilots that should not be in the cockpit to begin with from crashing. It is unfortunate but automation and lack of training for real flying has taken us to this point. Boeing totally messed this up and continues to mismanage to a large degree. But once it does get back in the air, it WILL be one of the safest planes flying..... except for the continued lack of basic airmanship that is sitting in the seat.
The public will fly them. Cost is king... they look for the lowest price and buy. Boeing will remove the MAX name and move on. So will the public.
This is about crew training and lack of flying skills as much as it is about Boeing messing this thing up. The 737 as a whole is already one of safest airframes in history. The Max accidents will not change this. Fact is, Boeing did this entire MCAS fubar in order to protect pilots that should not be in the cockpit to begin with from crashing. It is unfortunate but automation and lack of training for real flying has taken us to this point. Boeing totally messed this up and continues to mismanage to a large degree. But once it does get back in the air, it WILL be one of the safest planes flying..... except for the continued lack of basic airmanship that is sitting in the seat.
The public will fly them. Cost is king... they look for the lowest price and buy. Boeing will remove the MAX name and move on. So will the public.
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