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Old 03-17-2019, 09:06 AM
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Understood, won’t ask anymore. I’m holding a CJO and not sure how any of this works.


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Welcome to United! Go to an LEC meeting, call your reps, and ask your fellow pilots a boatload of questions when you're here.
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:20 AM
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Welcome to the machine. You will most likely be off of probation and eligible to vote on the next contract. Get through training, keep your nose clean while on probation, and enjoy a pretty good ride. There will be plenty of time to think about union and contract stuff when you get to the line.
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:50 AM
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There will be no contract, but on your death bed you will receive total consciousness!
So I got that going for me... which is nice!
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:54 AM
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Thou shall not make future decisions based on rumor. Sorry, eventually we'll have a new contract. We'll get one when our MEC and NC get a beneficial TA for our pilot group. Whenever that is! We're in no rush!!!
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:42 AM
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I did notice a few things of interest in reading the Delta MEC Chairman's update...

1. They have scope violations. I believe 22 in total.

2. They are about to start section 6.

I was surprised to see that Delta was having issues with their scope language and Management violations of it. I recall the Continental Scope language was very tight. CAL management tried to violate it a few times, I think 3. All 3 times they got hammered pretty quick. Hope we get some really good and bullet proof scope language in our next contract.
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67 View Post
There will be no contract, but on your death bed you will receive total consciousness!
So we’ve got that going for us....which is nice...
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Old 03-17-2019, 11:55 AM
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I did notice a few things of interest in reading the Delta MEC Chairman's update...

1. They have scope violations. I believe 22 in total.

2. They are about to start section 6.

I was surprised to see that Delta was having issues with their scope language and Management violations of it. I recall the Continental Scope language was very tight. CAL management tried to violate it a few times, I think 3. All 3 times they got hammered pretty quick. Hope we get some really good and bullet proof scope language in our next contract.
CAL scope was very tight, right until we did a code share with United. No need to add any Asia flying or Australia etc because United was doing it all for us with 747s.

So we can scope clause all we want, but then we give away that flying in a code share and nobody blinks.
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Old 03-17-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GoCats67 View Post
There will be no contract, but on your death bed you will receive total consciousness!
Well you got that going for you, which is nice.
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Old 03-17-2019, 05:49 PM
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I want an 84 hour guarantee, and I will only work on Wednesdays. But not EVERY Wednesday!
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Old 03-19-2019, 11:43 AM
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Are there any plans for the NC to put out an update on the status of negotiations each week? That would be most informative to help the pilots stay informed and preclude them from having so many phone calls to reps. 12,000 phone calls a week to a handful of reps might get to be a bit much.
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