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10-03-2019 | 09:58 PM
#13
Gets his house in order
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As an outsider I would disagree and like to give you something to consider. At AA if someone gets hired into one of their regionals they are guaranteed a job with AA. If the regional needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little bit to attract people, are all those selected going to be desirable to share a cockpit with or work for AA for 40 years? There is no way for AA to break the contract. Time at a regional (for those who want to move on) should be a time of proving one's self. Anyone who does not work hard to be the best they can be does not deserve (in my estimation) to move on before those who are will to give their best.
I do not think UA hurts themselves in any way being able to be selective in who they hire. In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA. The big three (AA, DL, UA) will be able to attract pilots to their respective companies. If I were in charge of staffing flight operations at any of the big three I would want to be able to select the very best that meet my standards rather than being forced to take anyone who does not.
I do not think UA hurts themselves in any way being able to be selective in who they hire. In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA. The big three (AA, DL, UA) will be able to attract pilots to their respective companies. If I were in charge of staffing flight operations at any of the big three I would want to be able to select the very best that meet my standards rather than being forced to take anyone who does not.
10-04-2019 | 03:26 AM
#15
Gets Weekends Off
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As an outsider I would disagree and like to give you something to consider. At AA if someone gets hired into one of their regionals they are guaranteed a job with AA. If the regional needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little bit to attract people, are all those selected going to be desirable to share a cockpit with or work for AA for 40 years? There is no way for AA to break the contract. Time at a regional (for those who want to move on) should be a time of proving one's self.
I do not think UA hurts themselves in any way being able to be selective in who they hire. In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA.
I do not think UA hurts themselves in any way being able to be selective in who they hire. In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA.
10-04-2019 | 04:54 AM
#16
Line Holder
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: 30 West
You have no problem flying in the back of United regional partners knowing they hire incapable pilots? Does United hold any responsibility to their passengers and safety? I would personally want to hire the best pilots for anything that carries the United name from day one. C5 crashed an an E145 last winter and United awards them more flying. Safety and hiring the best pilots is not want United strives for. They want a cheap product and are willing to risk safety to meet their goals. I know how this business works.
With that said I do not think I would want to share a cockpit with every person who is able to acquire a restricted ATP for 10 hours on an ocean crossing. When I say the regionals are a proving ground, I'm not referring to the ability to fly an airplane safely. I'm talking about figuring out if they will fit into the culture of the major. I'm talking about from the company's perspective is this someone I want to be a part of my workforce for 40 years?
10-04-2019 | 06:07 AM
#17
Gets Weekends Off
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Wow is all I can say about all the egos that float around when the “qualification” discussion rises its ugly head.
Basically my experience is this;
Total time means very little in the quality and ability of the pilot. What does make a huge difference is the level of training and continued high standards of everyday performance.
All you military jet jocks know, the US Government takes a person with zero time and in less than 200 hours they are flying airplanes loaded with weapons and often with WMDs.
Assuming the standards of training, checking and continued operation remain high, I personally have no problems with the new program announced by UAL. Additionally I would be more than comfortable riding with such pilots at the controls.
Basically my experience is this;
Total time means very little in the quality and ability of the pilot. What does make a huge difference is the level of training and continued high standards of everyday performance.
All you military jet jocks know, the US Government takes a person with zero time and in less than 200 hours they are flying airplanes loaded with weapons and often with WMDs.
Assuming the standards of training, checking and continued operation remain high, I personally have no problems with the new program announced by UAL. Additionally I would be more than comfortable riding with such pilots at the controls.
Thanks for that. I assume you saw his "performance" with Chris Wallace. 
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