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Old 10-03-2019 | 01:17 PM
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This was announced today. CJOs to United while still building hours. Advancing to United FO after 2000 hours with the regional.

Sure to be controversial. Thoughts?

www.unitedaviate.com
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Old 10-03-2019 | 01:21 PM
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Old 10-03-2019 | 01:45 PM
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Here is the news article on CNBC about it too

http://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/03/unite...xt-decade.html

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Old 10-03-2019 | 02:45 PM
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Reading the FAQ it doesnt seem much different from the cpp. Added technical portion to interview and adjusted the hour requirement. Hopefully theres better communication vs the cpp cause that program was garbage in that regard.
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Old 10-03-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by falconkidding
Reading the FAQ it doesnt seem much different from the cpp. Added technical portion to interview and adjusted the hour requirement. Hopefully theres better communication vs the cpp cause that program was garbage in that regard.
‘Aviate’ is not industry leading and UAL is trying to trap regional pilots into a promise that they might be able to work at United. Meanwhile, AA wholly-owned regional pilots are guaranteed to work for American. United falls behind the industry once again.
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Old 10-03-2019 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinepilot50
‘Aviate’ is not industry leading and UAL is trying to trap regional pilots into a promise that they might be able to work at United. Meanwhile, AA wholly-owned regional pilots are guaranteed to work for American. United falls behind the industry once again.
As an outsider I would disagree and like to give you something to consider. At AA if someone gets hired into one of their regionals they are guaranteed a job with AA. If the regional needs to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little bit to attract people, are all those selected going to be desirable to share a cockpit with or work for AA for 40 years? There is no way for AA to break the contract. Time at a regional (for those who want to move on) should be a time of proving one's self. Anyone who does not work hard to be the best they can be does not deserve (in my estimation) to move on before those who are will to give their best.

I do not think UA hurts themselves in any way being able to be selective in who they hire. In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA. The big three (AA, DL, UA) will be able to attract pilots to their respective companies. If I were in charge of staffing flight operations at any of the big three I would want to be able to select the very best that meet my standards rather than being forced to take anyone who does not.
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Old 10-03-2019 | 07:20 PM
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In fact I think you should want and be grateful that every restricted ATP that finds their way into the UA system does not have a lock on a job at UA.
Everyone at your regionals are already representing your brand
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Old 10-03-2019 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Everyone at your regionals are already representing your brand
And in too many cases not as well as you would want.
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Old 10-03-2019 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by YAKflyer
And in too many cases not as well as you would want.
Pay people less to do the same work then don’t expect as much in return from them.
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Old 10-03-2019 | 08:37 PM
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The video for the Aviate website is very....lets just say it...."checked many boxes"
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