I got hired in 1990. I was a 727 S/O in ORD as a new hire. I had a base trade while still in training to get DEN. It was not approved. As soon as my IOE was finished the bid awards came out and for the first time I am aware of they junior manned the bottom 40 pilots in ORD to upgrade to the 737 f/o seat involuntarily. I was at the bottom of that list since I finished my IOE a few days prior. It delayed me getting based in a DEN for 2 and a half years and I was the bottom 737-300 FO for almost 2 years. Was in inconvenient? Yes. Does commuting to reserve suck compared to being based at home? Yes. I didn’t **** and moan about it because I wanted the job and was thrilled to death to be here. If you can’t endure a few years sucking hind tit when there is massive movement going on while we speak, then maybe this isn’t the career for you.

 

Let it go.......

We are talking about relative seniority in a class of XX size. Get over it.

You are still senior to everyone in the next new class......forever.

From a guy back in the SSN days.....oldest guy in the class and the Ball. GOD SAVE THE BALL!

My assignment......DC-10 SO in ANC.

Commuted from SAT.

Lee

 

What does a 20 year MIL guy have to do with the price of tea in China. Are you implying that all MIL go to the front of the list for that class? What about someone who has been flying for 3 different airlines during that same 20 year period? What about someone who started taking flying lessons when they were 10 years old and went the civilian route and is now 30 years old? Perhaps we should put all females at the front, maybe trans or LGBT should go first. Why not just find a random way to do it like the SSN number method. Just because you think you are special doesn’t mean you are. You are not special if you fall into any of these groups.

 

HAY!
Bid 20-04V is out!!

Motch

 

Fake news.

 

There was suppose to be a link to "Rick Roll".. alas, I failed~

April Fools!
Figured I'd take some heat off the newbies~
LOL

HappY Halloween Everyone~
Boo

Motch

 

Too quality trolling there brother. I must have refreshed my page 4x before I decided I had been had

 

I was expecting the Rick roll. There really is a 20-04V on the way. Just not sure when it will show up.

 

Well then throw down with some rumor mill details broseph. 300 capt seats? 500 WB fo? This is APC, which means speculate and/or hate. Nothing else allowed. Lol

 

What a strange direction the thread took. I can't believe how forgetful people are of the bad times, lack of stability, lack of job openings, etc. If someone is separating and taking a chance outside of active duty, that's a big leap. Units close, positions get defunded, the economy can a downturn, hiring projections can change. On the other side, we could get involved with a conflict, and as others have shown, you could end up living in a tent away from your family for a long time. Strange how anyone, especially those with a military background would look at that from the outside and think someone is making those choices with a "rolling in dough" mindset. I'd guess that most people making these choices are doing it with a family in mind, not a Ferrari. If someone can get a class date with a major, they'd be crazy not to take it, even if someone thinks the good times are permanent. They're not.

Getting a guard spot can be tricky, and timing a class date for training for certain guard jobs isn't just a matter of letting the unit know when you're going, just like you don't just let United know when you're going to Indoc.

Nobody should turn down a class date that doesn't potentially want to regret that decision for a decade stuck in a regional or findiong other work. Especially those who are serving the country (at a much lower payrate than those *****ing about their PS impact).

Guys in this position have likely been serving for 10-12 years, and have spent a lot of time in some crummy places.

If you don't take it, they're just going to fill that slot with some 20-something that isn't grateful for the job that mom and dad most likely helped get them, and starts thinking on day 1 about suing the company because he didn't get the seniority number that he was entitled to. If they're thinking about suing for that, can you imaging flying with them and trying to debrief a crappy approach or bad decision or having to stand on a carpet with them in front of a CP or jury?

For anyone thinking about the Guard or Reserves out of the gate, go for it. The only people that would negatively judge you are people you wouldn't respect anyway.