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Old 11-16-2019 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
Years ago just after the merger I got asked by a visiting guppy crew where the Chief Pilot’s Office was. I told them “Its in flight operations.” They said “Oh...where’s the weather room”? I told them I have no idea but I’ll intro them to the chief pilot. We got down to ops and I said the chief pilot is this way and they said this is what they were looking for and called it “the weather room”. I’ve never heard of operations being called the weather room until that time.

I have no problem calling things whatever, but some guys still call a category a BES even though that’s not the term we use, but they I get chastised when I call the CPO “flight ops”. So I guess we are even.
Door codes at EWR say “Flight Planning Area in the Chief Pilot Office”. Pretty clear to me. Not sure what JEPP says but probably more of the same.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 01:44 PM
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CAL traditionally did not flight plan in the area designated by corporate real-estate as flight operations (where the Chief pilot’s offices are). We had WX rooms (FPAs with actual humans that printed our flight plans out etc and where computers and stand up desks/chart tables like you see today at IAH/EWR). UAL, due to a standoff with airport operations (Pete McDonald) only had flight planning areas within the designated real estate allotment for flight operations. It was the norm (as it is now in those domiciles as stated in the FOM) to meet there and flight plan, chit chat etc before walking down to the gate. CAL pilots only went down to flight operations to check v-files or see someone in the CPO about something. Schedules could be checked/computer training available and lounges were present in the “CPO” but meeting the other pilots on the trip for flight related activities occurred on the concourse level “WX Rooms”. FOs used to be required to sign the release on the first flight of the trip. The releases were printed out by the WX room staff (much like the DORs in UAL flight ops) and placed in the turn table. The FO would normally arrive early (domestic) and review the printed flight papers, sign the release, return the release back into the turntable and proceed to the gate if the captain was not there. Captain would arrive, pull the papers, look for signature of FO as a way of confirming that he/she was 1. At the airport 2. Okay with the release/fuel/MEL if any etc. and review/sign, leave copy of signed release with rep and proceed to the gate. Long haul crews did the planning together like we do today.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by O2pilot
Years ago just after the merger I got asked by a visiting guppy crew where the Chief Pilot’s Office was. I told them “Its in flight operations.” They said “Oh...where’s the weather room”? I told them I have no idea but I’ll intro them to the chief pilot. We got down to ops and I said the chief pilot is this way and they said this is what they were looking for and called it “the weather room”. I’ve never heard of operations being called the weather room until that time.

I have no problem calling things whatever, but some guys still call a category a BES even though that’s not the term we use, but they I get chastised when I call the CPO “flight ops”. So I guess we are even.
Huh? Seriously, when did we stop calling it BES??
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Old 11-16-2019 | 05:35 PM
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Bunch of nerds. Jetway or PLB, CPO, Flight Ops or FPA, 73, or 37 or guppy....who cares? People who get wrapped around the axle on this stuff crack me up.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RSRVWINDSURFR
Bunch of nerds. Jetway or PLB, CPO, Flight Ops or FPA, 73, or 37 or guppy....who cares? People who get wrapped around the axle on this stuff crack me up.
“Pairing,” no It’s an “ID”, actually it’s now called a “trip”.....
What else?
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Old 11-16-2019 | 08:31 PM
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Category!

It’s the contract term and what is used by the company and ALPA.

2-K Category is a Base, Equipment, and Status combination (e.g. ORD 756 F/O) to which a Pilot is assigned.
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Old 11-16-2019 | 08:54 PM
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Functioning Under Conformity......does not spell FUN
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Old 11-16-2019 | 09:11 PM
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Oops! Fixed.
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Old 11-17-2019 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by pokey9554
Oops! Fixed.
No need to fix it....what it actually spells is a synonym for FUN.
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Old 11-17-2019 | 02:02 AM
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Well played, both of you sirs!
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