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Old 01-02-2020 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rightside02
Get rid of the crew meals and put that dollar in my paycheck ...

Crew meals are a joke .. (can’t speaking for the heavy guys )
That's why they call them heavy guys! When I was long haul it was just a high speed buffet to happy hour.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 05:17 AM
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While there is no disagreement on profit sharing, their profit numbers will always be better than ours due to their outsourced international flying. United has and for the foreseeable future will have far more widebody flying. When you factor that pay differential vs. profit sharing, I would go with United (Captain with 12 years on 777 = $359/hour with international override vs. 320 Captain $283/hr. = $76/hr X 1000 hours pay credit per year, $76,000. 10% difference in profit sharing won’t get you that) . But like everyone above has emphasized, commuting versus living in base should be a minor consideration.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Longball
That's why they call them heavy guys! When I was long haul it was just a high speed buffet to happy hour.
I’m gonna use that.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 05:54 AM
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People told me to avoid DAL because of lack of WBs, 1.5 years on property and I was in the right seat of a WB...you just never know. Profit sharing is great now, may not be in the future. Contracts come and go, profit sharing will come and go. Go where you can most easily live where you want. Both are great companies.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 06:24 AM
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I’ve heard at UAL we have more ability to get higher credit per month and drop trips also. Not sure if there’s any truth to that. I easily get average 95 credit per month and have had vacation months with 110-120, I remember being told by a Delta JS they have limits on that, not sure if that’s accurate or not. I do like our ability to have pilots with 40-100+ credit per month, to each his own.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
People told me to avoid DAL because of lack of WBs, 1.5 years on property and I was in the right seat of a WB...you just never know. Profit sharing is great now, may not be in the future. Contracts come and go, profit sharing will come and go. Go where you can most easily live where you want. Both are great companies.
Define WB. My buddies at Delta refer to the 767-300 as a wide body. While it is for size, it isn’t for pay. 767-400 and up. At least that’s how the pay works at UAL. I know it’s a different set up for you guys.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by McNugent
Define WB. My buddies at Delta refer to the 767-300 as a wide body. While it is for size, it isn’t for pay. 767-400 and up. At least that’s how the pay works at UAL. I know it’s a different set up for you guys.
Ya a small group of guys look at it that way, but when I refer to a WB, I'm referencing the pay (764/330 and up). In my case, the 330.

I do wish we banded our 764/330 like you guys.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatesheavys
I’ve heard at UAL we have more ability to get higher credit per month and drop trips also. Not sure if there’s any truth to that. I easily get average 95 credit per month and have had vacation months with 110-120, I remember being told by a Delta JS they have limits on that, not sure if that’s accurate or not. I do like our ability to have pilots with 40-100+ credit per month, to each his own.
Exactly. Nothing spells QOL like 110-120 credit hours in a vacation month and 95 for others.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatesheavys
I’ve heard at UAL we have more ability to get higher credit per month and drop trips also. Not sure if there’s any truth to that. I easily get average 95 credit per month and have had vacation months with 110-120, I remember being told by a Delta JS they have limits on that, not sure if that’s accurate or not. I do like our ability to have pilots with 40-100+ credit per month, to each his own.
At DAL, it depends on the staffing in your category. When I bid a line, I drop my entire schedule to zero, then pick up more efficient trips. For me that means 84 to 95 hours on 12 days of actual work. Over 110 in vacations months isn't hard at all.

With a little seniority, thanks to OE trip buys and picking up (or greenslipping) over those days, I have buddies averaging 110-120 month even in non-vacation months. Recently flew with a A330 captain that had a 12 month rolling average of 164 hours/month (highest month was ~250...I actually saw his PAS that proved it). Dude is 70% in his seat, but he's hustling trying to pad his account before retirement. Point is every contract has it's niceties.
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Old 01-03-2020 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatesheavys
I’ve heard at UAL we have more ability to get higher credit per month and drop trips also. Not sure if there’s any truth to that. I easily get average 95 credit per month and have had vacation months with 110-120, I remember being told by a Delta JS they have limits on that, not sure if that’s accurate or not. I do like our ability to have pilots with 40-100+ credit per month, to each his own.
It greatly depends on the fleet and seat. On UAL 777's SFO, it's difficult to drop trips.
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