I have version 6.0

 

Yeah, the current PDF is posted in the downloads section of the “other” forum.

 

PM me and I can send you the telephone decision tree which will tell you when you have to answer among other things. I can’t figure out how to post it here

 

My experience on the 320 in EWR, staying on LSR is very rare. The crew desk will create short call and field standby assignments on a whim to fit whatever silo they want, and then assign them to whomever they want. I’ll finish a 3 or 4 day trip, be driving home and be told that I have field standby tomorrow!! Soooo, if I just finished a trip, how on earth am I the next person available?!?! Shouldn’t I be going to the proverbial bottom of the list??? Complete buffoonery.

 

Curious to hear from other Bus/Guppy guys how common FSB is across system? It’s still extremely rare on WB’s and 57, but they may be changing with the staffing surplus coming...

 

SFO 737 FO here and was on reserve until this past February and there would be at a minimum of 2 and sometimes 3 FSB’s a day, usually in the afternoon and evening. As a poster above mentioned they will make assignments out of order so knowing where you sit in the silo is imperative as well as knowing the contract. I received a call late one night for a short call the next day knowing full well that there were two pilots ahead of me in the silo. When the scheduler tried to give me the assignment I inquired about the two above me. She told me that they both had one SC each already and that I had none so it was going to me. It was at this point that I informed her that per the contract a pilot could not be bypassed until they had TWO unused SC or FSB assignments. She put me on hold came back 30 seconds later and told me that I was right and I would not be given the assignment. This is the kind of crap the will try and pull. As mentioned above, know where you sit and know the contract. I’ll also add that I was on reserve for nearly six months which I realize really isn’t that long but over that period I can count on one hand the amount of times they left me alone on LSR. I was either on SC, FSB or out flying.

 

Aside from buffoonery, it’s the silos too. They could have 10 reserves but since you’re the only one in your silo, they can create a “two day SC" even though no SC is actually two days long, and give it to you because you’re the only one in a two-day silo. The fix is to get rid of the silos, and all SC/FS are for one day (since they are really only for one day anyway), then FIFO would be for very reserve in the pool, not just your silo. It would prevent this practice of them looking at the silos and then creating a reserve assignment designed only for you.

 

Okay, have zero idea what I’m talking about here......just work the PDR Hotline.

Yes, CM has too much freedom with how/when they build SC and FSB. That said, SC often overlaps 2 calendar days.

The freedom they have is in that contract thing. Sucks but is.

Lee

PS, don’t like it either

 

Yes, it is. Which is why that should be changed. Right now the contract REQUIRES they build siloed assignments.

20-K-6-c Short Call assignments shall be built for a designated silo.

Note the implication—assignments are built for silos, but not for a reserve pilot. Instead, silos are built for reserves by swing shift schedulers.

I think it would benefit us greatly to change this language. Others may agree, others may not. The leverage might be that they also might like to simplify the whole process. Build no-silo assignments, anyone can pick them up, anyone can be assigned them in FIFO order. Otherwise, add language that SC/FS "shall be built before 1100".

 

the idea of silos is to cover specific time windows or trips, I.e. a 3 day trip.

reality seems to be that they chop them up as they see fit anyway. No real need for silos then. It is usually about saving the operations the day off and kick the can down the road.