Furloughs and break even points
03-14-2020, 05:19 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: SFO Guppy CA
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
for example I’m a junior A320 CA.
i could just bid A320 FO in DEN because I know that’s where I’m going to end up. Instead I bid 737 CA on the first round of displacements. So I’m hoping they won’t train me because on the second round I’m going to be tossed from there.
second round I get bumped from the 737 CA seat so I bid WB FO in ORD knowing I won’t be able to hold it later hoping they won’t train me......I remain an A320 CA.
next round I take WB fo in SFO....if I get stuck there I’m ok with that but I don’t expect to keep it....so I remain an A320 CA.
finally we hit the round where I know I’m going to be able to hold any NB base so I take the NB bid I want and go to training. I stretched out my CA pay a lot longer then I could have had I just took the bid I knew I could hold.
its a risk sometimes you will get trained several times and you run the risk of miscalculating what you don’t expect to hold and now you are stuck with a bad commute or reserve for several years until things start moving again. Iv seen pilots benefit and Iv seen pilots kick themselves.
i could just bid A320 FO in DEN because I know that’s where I’m going to end up. Instead I bid 737 CA on the first round of displacements. So I’m hoping they won’t train me because on the second round I’m going to be tossed from there.
second round I get bumped from the 737 CA seat so I bid WB FO in ORD knowing I won’t be able to hold it later hoping they won’t train me......I remain an A320 CA.
next round I take WB fo in SFO....if I get stuck there I’m ok with that but I don’t expect to keep it....so I remain an A320 CA.
finally we hit the round where I know I’m going to be able to hold any NB base so I take the NB bid I want and go to training. I stretched out my CA pay a lot longer then I could have had I just took the bid I knew I could hold.
its a risk sometimes you will get trained several times and you run the risk of miscalculating what you don’t expect to hold and now you are stuck with a bad commute or reserve for several years until things start moving again. Iv seen pilots benefit and Iv seen pilots kick themselves.
03-14-2020, 05:43 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: 737 Captain
Posts: 855
Originally Posted by Firefly899
Geez. And Im just hoping to get a paycheck in a few months. Thought I had my dream job and was going to be able to take care of my family the way they deserve.
I would steer clear of this forum for a while. This place will do nothing good for your peace/piece of mind. Listening to the people on this forum (some of whom are trolls/ not pointing anyone out in particular but it does happen) go on about what they think will happen or not does no one any good. The company and the union will communicate with the pilot group. Good luck and stay healthy And sane.
03-14-2020, 05:48 AM
#25
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Posts: 142
Originally Posted by cal73
I would steer clear of this forum for a while. This place will do nothing good for your peace/piece of mind. Listening to the people on this forum (some of whom are trolls/ not pointing anyone out in particular but it does happen) go on about what they think will happen or not does no one any good. The company and the union will communicate with the pilot group. Good luck and stay healthy And sane.
03-14-2020, 05:51 AM
#26
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Position: Left of center
Posts: 190
Originally Posted by mrmak2
Any chance DENTK closes down at some point for corona?
03-14-2020, 05:52 AM
#27
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Posts: 234
Originally Posted by baseball
Over 60 year olds being recommended not to fly unless its necessary.
I guess the younger you are the lower your risk factors are.
The senior bubba's may be getting sick. Hopefully our pilots don't catch this stuff, but once they do, they are going to infect other crew members.
I guess the younger you are the lower your risk factors are.
The senior bubba's may be getting sick. Hopefully our pilots don't catch this stuff, but once they do, they are going to infect other crew members.
03-14-2020, 06:54 AM
#28
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Position: 737 Captain
Posts: 855
Furloughs and break even points
Originally Posted by Bat Guano
C'Mon, There's a great drinking thread right now! Well, at least until they close it......
Absolutely. And cheers to that. I’m just thinking about the new guys, and gals that may feel like they are on the chopping block. Even if they do come to APC for drink recipes, their morbid curiosity will beckon them to click on bad news threads that will do nothing but harsh their buzz.
This will pass and we’ll get on with our lives. But for the time being some of the newer UA, DL, AA, etc. pilots would do their sanity well to stay off this forum.
03-14-2020, 07:44 AM
#29
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Position: guppy CA
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Plan for the worst and hope for the best.
Using the OP's post as a starting point, if you're less than 2450 from the bottom, make furlough plans. Everyone else make plans to be bumped down to a lower pay rate.
Those who flew their butts off during good times plan on minimum guarantee.
Let's hope this passes quickly but consider this a financial checkride. Don't show up unprepared.
Using the OP's post as a starting point, if you're less than 2450 from the bottom, make furlough plans. Everyone else make plans to be bumped down to a lower pay rate.
Those who flew their butts off during good times plan on minimum guarantee.
Let's hope this passes quickly but consider this a financial checkride. Don't show up unprepared.
