UAL - manpower reduction options
03-28-2020, 06:45 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by majkjohn
I think your worst case is pretty optimistic.
I would be surprised if there are 10000 pilots on the list by Christmas.
I would be surprised if there are 10000 pilots on the list by Christmas.
03-28-2020, 06:55 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by majkjohn
I think your worst case is pretty optimistic.
I would be surprised if there are 10000 pilots on the list by Christmas.
I would be surprised if there are 10000 pilots on the list by Christmas.
03-28-2020, 07:39 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
You could easily be right, but I sure hope that you’re wrong. Reducing the list by 3,500 plus another 1,000 due to two years of attrition would reduce the current list by 1/3. Let’s just hope that we can come up with an attractive early out deal so that as many people as possible leave because they want to, not because they have to.
We are really lucky to get a reprieve till October. A lot of people I know are already getting laid off (not aviation). I don't think travel will be people/corporations priority anytime soon.
Totally agree with your last points.
Best of luck to everyone.
03-28-2020, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Hold on Buckaroo. I wouldn't be saying "...make it work. I'm in." Until we know the details. Don't be so ready to give concessions till our negotiators have had their say.
First time looking down the barrel is an eye opener and would gut the contract for a “chance” that pilots won’t be furloughed. I think we both know how that ends......
It will be OUR job to relay our past experience to make sure it doesn’t happen again 👊🏻
03-28-2020, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Hold on Buckaroo. I wouldn't be saying "...make it work. I'm in." Until we know the details. Don't be so ready to give concessions till our negotiators have had their say.
03-28-2020, 09:52 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Hold on Buckaroo. I wouldn't be saying "...make it work. I'm in." Until we know the details. Don't be so ready to give concessions till our negotiators have had their say.
03-28-2020, 10:47 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by LUVPLANES
But if you belong in the group of I got mine and don’t care about others, then it’s a completely different conversation. We have to think of a solution for the whole group.
03-28-2020, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Shrek
I think it represents the fact that a lot of pilots on the list today have not been through the flip side of the coin of record growth.
First time looking down the barrel is an eye opener and would gut the contract for a “chance” that pilots won’t be furloughed. I think we both know how that ends......
It will be OUR job to relay our past experience to make sure it doesn’t happen again 👊🏻
First time looking down the barrel is an eye opener and would gut the contract for a “chance” that pilots won’t be furloughed. I think we both know how that ends......
It will be OUR job to relay our past experience to make sure it doesn’t happen again 👊🏻
I’ll give you that most haven’t seen it at UAL, but to suggest they don’t know the ramifications of an industry downturn is disingenuous. There’s a lot of experience in the bottom third of the list that knows the ramifications of givebacks. Unfortunately, just not from the perspective of mainline.
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