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Old 03-27-2020, 06:41 PM   #11  
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Details delivered as requested, check your email from the MEC. I’ll give you a hint, I guess they thought today was April 1st.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:00 PM   #12  
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Just finished reading the email. Is it just me or are none of these remotely appealing? Am I reading this right that if I have vacation and want a ESRL I give it up and loose the pay?

yep you read it correctly.

I was certainly hoping for better terms. The 62+ guys Iíve heard are salivating for an offer like AAL pilots got with their VPLOA option.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:04 PM   #13  
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Obviously the company wants something in return, they can easily offer the 62+ deal AAL got but at a cost of big scope relief, our only hope is to stay united. Letís say worst case scenario they want to furlough 2,000 pilots Oct 1st unless we all accept to all go down to a flat 50hr/month until the market recovers. Can we all stick together to make it work? Iím in.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:49 PM   #14  
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The UAL MEC will negotiate on the pilotís behalf behind closed doors, AND, if there is a material change to pay or working conditions the agreement will be sent to membership for ratification. Just like the MEC said in the last update.
Actually, the words you are looking for are substantial change. That however is not defined and the MEC can act without MR if not deemed to be substantial. For instance, LOA 20-01. Granted, voluntary options. However, who controls the normal SRL process and determines how many to allow......the company. Round about way for the company to push some towards the Empty Line or E SRL in my opinion.

Not impressed by this LOA.

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Hold on Buckaroo. I wouldn't be saying "...make it work. I'm in." Until we know the details. Don't be so ready to give concessions till our negotiators have had their say.
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Just finished reading the email. Is it just me or are none of these remotely appealing? Am I reading this right that if I have vacation and want a ESRL I give it up and loose the pay?
thats how it reads, but I doubt thatís how it works. And correct, nothing is remotely appealing except the e-Srl, but until we know credit hours canít say of course.
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...our only hope is to stay united...
I agree. Let's do that.
And let our MEC work through it.
Withough negotiating in public.
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Obviously the company wants something in return, they can easily offer the 62+ deal AAL got but at a cost of big scope relief, our only hope is to stay united. Letís say worst case scenario they want to furlough 2,000 pilots Oct 1st unless we all accept to all go down to a flat 50hr/month until the market recovers. Can we all stick together to make it work? Iím in.

me too
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Old 03-28-2020, 05:41 AM   #19  
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The bailout deal was a big piece to the puzzle that the union and company needed to come up with a plan. Hopefully now they know how much government cheese weíre getting they can have better numbers to work with and come up with an early out that would benefit the pilots on the way out, help the company, and reduce the number of furloughs. United has put up some big furlough numbers in the past for events that werenít this severe, I hope this doesnít go as deep as some fear.
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Letís say worst case scenario they want to furlough 2,000 pilots Oct 1st unless we all accept to all go down to a flat 50hr/month until the market recovers. Can we all stick together to make it work? Iím in.
I think your worst case is pretty optimistic.

I would be surprised if there are 10000 pilots on the list by Christmas.
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