SK wants Concessions
06-02-2020, 07:25 PM
#202
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Originally Posted by Tandem46
The current CBA is one giant compilation of CONCESSIONS!
I don't want to put words in your mouth or make assumptions, so please tell me the point of your post. It's a very strange thing to say.
06-02-2020, 07:28 PM
#203
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Originally Posted by Tandem46
Hmmm.....already lost trust in SK? What changed?
Unbelievable...can’t even give SK a chance. Your attitude should be that if he’s got concessions in there you can’t live with, then vote it down, but to blindly just say this??? Nice.
Unbelievable...can’t even give SK a chance. Your attitude should be that if he’s got concessions in there you can’t live with, then vote it down, but to blindly just say this??? Nice.
06-02-2020, 07:49 PM
#204
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Originally Posted by AirMicronesia
I was banking money as a regional pilot and we made far less than you guys were this last decade. What the heck were you doing going further into debt? Lemme gue$$... Too many folks living beyond their means. I fly with a bunch of FOs that were wildly in over their heads. $1000/mo Tesla payments. $500,000 McMansions.
06-02-2020, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AirMicronesia
Great question. It was the people whining about being broke with $50,000 whining bonuses.
Because if you are, I SERIOUSLY doubt we have many new hires here that actually got that much. Sure, maybe a few.
But to think FO's that came from the regionals were rolling in the cash due to the bonus structure is nothing more than complete ignorance.
06-02-2020, 08:31 PM
#206
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Originally Posted by Tandem46:
"The current CBA is one giant compilation of CONCESSIONS!"
Not a strange thing to say at all. There are still many sections that we have not recovered from bankruptcy. For example, we had an opportunity to improve some reserve rules--which are straight from Glenn, but we chose other areas to focus on. Relentless short call anyone?
Just to name a few:
Credit for reserves on a trip
Training pay per day,
Vacation pay per day,
Myriad of other work rules....
At one point, Mako had a great list.
I had some hope of fixing these in our current contract talks. My glass seems to have a leak in it. It started half full.
"The current CBA is one giant compilation of CONCESSIONS!"
Originally Posted by AxlF16
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I don't want to put words in your mouth or make assumptions, so please tell me the point of your post. It's a very strange thing to say.
I don't want to put words in your mouth or make assumptions, so please tell me the point of your post. It's a very strange thing to say.
Just to name a few:
Credit for reserves on a trip
Training pay per day,
Vacation pay per day,
Myriad of other work rules....
At one point, Mako had a great list.
I had some hope of fixing these in our current contract talks. My glass seems to have a leak in it. It started half full.
06-02-2020, 09:16 PM
#207
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Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
Not a strange thing to say at all. There are still many sections that we have not recovered from bankruptcy. For example, we had an opportunity to improve some reserve rules--which are straight from Glenn, but we chose other areas to focus on. Relentless short call anyone?
Originally Posted by Tandem46
Unbelievable...can’t even give SK a chance. Your attitude should be that if he’s got concessions in there you can’t live with, then vote it down, but to blindly just say this??? Nice.
06-03-2020, 05:18 AM
#208
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Originally Posted by AirMicronesia
Chuck, try to keep up. This is a United forum. The FOs with Teslas are at United. I’m sure they were just as buried in debt at the regionals living far above their means. That doesn’t mean I have to listen and commiserate with their inability to delay gratification. Unfortunately these broke jokers get a vote.
By the way a $500,000 house is a dump in many west coast cities. Complete fixer or tear down. It’s also a very modest purchase price on $200k+ per year.
06-03-2020, 07:06 AM
#209
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
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I don't want to put words in your mouth or make assumptions, so please tell me the point of your post. It's a very strange thing to say.
I don't want to put words in your mouth or make assumptions, so please tell me the point of your post. It's a very strange thing to say.
06-03-2020, 07:11 AM
#210
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Originally Posted by AAL24
what about owning a Tesla is living beyond your means as a Legacy FO? Most of the FOs I know make 200-300k. FOs make more now than Captains did in 2013. This pandemic is a once in a century event that has devastated our economy.
By the way a $500,000 house is a dump in many west coast cities. Complete fixer or tear down. It’s also a very modest purchase price on $200k+ per year.
By the way a $500,000 house is a dump in many west coast cities. Complete fixer or tear down. It’s also a very modest purchase price on $200k+ per year.
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