The company is gonna be in the very unique position of being able to snap back even if it takes longer for demand to rebound.

A huge percentage of the list will be eligible for short courses, which is a new thing for us compared to previous cycles.

 

How long do they have from furlough to recall and short-course eligible?

 

If you like ratios: Ouch ,,, But American Airlines did have some good news today. Domestic sked will increase 55% and International 20% in July.

5,196 CA's and 8,304 FO's = 13,500 Total Pilots before COVID-19.

3,600 CA's and 5,753 FO's = 9,353 Total Pilots after COVID-19.

 

I'm assuming by now, you've read the MEC's accompaniment email that came out within minutes of the Round 2 (20-08D) D-Bid today. In that read the MEC Chair says in black/white, the Company actually wanted to publish this bid to twice those numbers (3.3K??) all the way up to the bid's release. If SK is honestly wanting to be "poised" (in his words) for a rebound in the future, these number's don't jibe.

100% agree with you....."Soften up the group". Like T.I. said in the email mentioned above, I'll let my Union do the work and not "negotiate" in public. The entire list has/or will at point take some sort of "hit" as a byproduct of these two measures/bids. That being said, "concession" is not in my vocabulary.

FUPM.

 

this displacement wasn’t a big surprise... it brings the pilot staffing (WB reqt) inline with a 30% reduction... just like they’ve been talking about in the news for a month.

 

^^^THIS^^^ next displacement will be furlough notices... then in Fall they’ll move around the NB FOs that are overmanned at certain bases (IAD, IAH) with another small displacement to EWR or SFO. 30% seems to be the solidified reduction plan.

 

With the “30% payroll reduction” term being thrown around, I was curious if anyone knows what the pilot “payroll” costs were before... AND what the “payroll” costs will be after these displacements.

Wouldn’t that number be more useful to determine how many pilots will need to be furloughed?

By putting everyone into a less costly position, does that save us 5%... 10%... 15%?

 

That might be interesting but I’d expect the company to staff for summer 2021, regardless.

 

2018 data from MIT shows the average United pilot salary at $250,000 and total compensation at $323,000

Having said that, I'm not willing to give this company one dime of concessions.

 

Agreed. The advertised (70%) plan continues steadily on course. While our schedule/loads have improved, the numbers have only gone from abysmal to really bad (90 to 75% reduction). The approaching reality looms larger and more painful for almost all of us, but the actual backslide isn’t worsening; it’s just a multi-step process. While SWA claims they will run a full schedule in the fall, they are very different and can always change last minute. I think it’s very unlikely that travel will increase into the slow offseason, and very likely that a 30% cut will still leave a large buffer over what our loads will be until next summer at least. While I’d love to see a bunch of these bumps cancelled even if to be “ready,” I don’t believe it would be prudent for the financial health of this company. The stronger the company, the more long-term jobs we have under a solid contract we can stick by and the company cannot change.

It took over 2 years for me to hit the street after 9-11. In many ways that was a slow, painful “death,” and I saw many others benefit (my opinion after the fact) from having the bandaid ripped off sooner: better job options, less time under deteriorating morale, etc.. My biggest piece of advice remains: if you have another solid work option, take it sooner. This too shall pass. When the cycle turns, climb back aboard if it suits, knowing that it will turn again. Until then, be thankful for the furlough fund and for the resolve of our union to defend this job/contract for all of our futures.