Early Outs
06-27-2020, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Any word on early outs at UAL?
until then there is no word and no desire....atleast publicly....on an Early Out.
06-27-2020, 12:51 PM
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Would someone explain the rationale from the company’s perspective for an early out? Why would they spend the money to pay you to leave Early when they can just furlough for much less cost? Is it all about good will and maintaining morale? Since there is very little flying and training costs are mostly fixed, I just don’t see it happening. I am encouraged to see just about every other airline offer one though
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06-27-2020, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
Would someone explain the rationale from the company’s perspective for an early out? Why would they spend the money to pay you to leave Early when they can just furlough for much less cost? Is it all about good will and maintaining morale? Since there is very little flying and trading costs are mostly fixed, I just don’t see it happening. I am encouraged to see just about every other airline offer one though
06-27-2020, 01:08 PM
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It potentially gets some of the most expensive/least productive pilots off the list at a relatively low cost. If guys are banging in sick for half the month anyway trying to deplete that sick bank, paying them 1/2 to 2/3 their salary to just go away is a fairly minimal change in the status quo.
Combine that with a potential parked fleet or two, and the cascade of training events that are triggered during any kind of displacement, enticing the top 10% to walk could be a win-win in a downturn.
Combine that with a potential parked fleet or two, and the cascade of training events that are triggered during any kind of displacement, enticing the top 10% to walk could be a win-win in a downturn.
06-27-2020, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
Would someone explain the rationale from the company’s perspective for an early out? Why would they spend the money to pay you to leave Early when they can just furlough for much less cost? Is it all about good will and maintaining morale? Since there is very little flying and training costs are mostly fixed, I just don’t see it happening. I am encouraged to see just about every other airline offer one though
But, what it does do is keep promises to newer pilots that our airline has turned a corner, and the animosity between management and pilots is a thing of the past.
I guess we’ll see if all that LEAP training was real, and if CORE4 is real, or we’ll see it was all a meaningless waste of time and resources.
06-27-2020, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathray
It doesn’t. And since our pilot group is rather top heavy, those slots will just be filled with equally paid pilots.
But, what it does do is keep promises to newer pilots that our airline has turned a corner, and the animosity between management and pilots is a thing of the past.
I guess we’ll see if all that LEAP training was real, and if CORE4 is real, or we’ll see it was all a meaningless waste of time and resources.
But, what it does do is keep promises to newer pilots that our airline has turned a corner, and the animosity between management and pilots is a thing of the past.
I guess we’ll see if all that LEAP training was real, and if CORE4 is real, or we’ll see it was all a meaningless waste of time and resources.
You thought that stuff was REAL? Really? You are a level 4 Marvin 😁
06-27-2020, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
Would someone explain the rationale from the company’s perspective for an early out? Why would they spend the money to pay you to leave Early when they can just furlough for much less cost? Is it all about good will and maintaining morale? Since there is very little flying and training costs are mostly fixed, I just don’t see it happening. I am encouraged to see just about every other airline offer one though
By moving bodies off both ends of the list there's much less churn in the middle.
But ultimately every airline is gonna do whatever burns the least cash in the short term and will come up with different solutions based on their circumstances.
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