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What were the detailed terms

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Originally Posted by CousinEddie (Post 3136981)

Wrong. PVSL2 pilots, despite not flying do not create tier move-ups until they turn 65 (or 24 months from DOS, whichever comes first). So even if 655 sign up, it won’t move the tiers at all.

this is correct and a huge bummer.

With the savings, does this mean the inflight service will get better?

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Originally Posted by jcool734 (Post 3136984)

What were the detailed terms

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It won’t let me paste all 29 pages here. Maybe find a friend at UAL and have them send it to you.

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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 3136961)

come cut my grass. 😁

AA guy here, would literally be happy to mow your grass to pay my bills. Congrats to you guys on at least some semblance of unity, I am ecstatic for your junior group to be able to provide for their families

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Originally Posted by opt0712 (Post 3136989)

With the savings, does this mean the inflight service will get better?

Um, no savings to company. Costs then a lot more so service will probably suffer .

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Originally Posted by duvie (Post 3136972)

10% less days worked for the top
18% less days for the middle
50% less for the bottom.

and the tiers are fluid, especially with potentially 655 new members to the top two. Not to mention some of my WB buddies who’ll bid to a lower tier and commute only twice a month

seniority honored and we are all in this together

"Days less worked", that is not true. Oh, if only it were that simple. 2:20

Wait till your vacation month rolls around and do the math. Keeping the vacation multiplier at 2:20 will be a paycut for many pilots. Remember the 2:20 comes from 70 hours MPG divided by 30 days. Why did the mulitplier not change to the commensurate MPG? Ah, its just the fine print. Who reads the fine print anyway?

And when is going from 70 to 60 a 10% cut?

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Originally Posted by mmm123 (Post 3136976)

I have been negative Andy but have never indicated taking an early out.. I'm still comfortable saying I don't think it will work, but when it doesn't I won't be gloating. I don't get pulled in to the this will have us in better position when it all turns around, I can't believe they sold the group on that statement. I am okay if I'm totally wrong but I will be surprised.Time will tell.

Cool. I haven't followed all of this closely enough to know what everyone's saying in terms of EO.
There was another person complaining that he just missed the age limit for the previous early out. Will be interesting to see what he does.

Having been furloughed twice from the lazy U, I know how bad it sucks. I'm glad we were able to keep these guys on property a while longer.

At this point, it all depends on how fast people will return to flying. And that's going to depend on how long it takes for Covid to be done. I expect at least one of the vaccines in phase 3 trials to be fairly effective for Covid.

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Originally Posted by SystemB (Post 3136919)

Post-merger UAL is and will remain the best passenger airline to work for. This deal will help ensure that. Still a gamble, but odds are in our favor.

Have you heard of this company called Delta?

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Originally Posted by mmm123 (Post 3136976)

What exactly would be the indicator of it working or not?

In your(or any other "no" pilot's) opinion what is the absolute rock bottom outcome of this agreement?