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Nucflash 10-13-2020 10:00 AM
Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3144645)
Nope!!! It’s just math!!! It’s that simple!!! If you think for second that SK was not going to furlough deep, you have your head in sand. Hoping that the tornado doesn’t blow your a$$ away.
That is the reality but it doesn’t affect HIM....therefore he doesn’t give two $hits.

Dave Fitzgerald 10-13-2020 10:17 AM
Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3144659)
I think that COVID will change the industry, not just United. The fact that the 50 seat fleet is getting old with no real replacement, and also that they are hated by our customers helps our cause. I’d love to see more 737-700/319’s, or even better, new A220’s serving the medium markets while the 50 seaters go away and the smallest markets get the 76 seaters. I’d really love to see the regionals get gutted and the legacy airlines take back flying, but I don’t expect that to happen any time soon on any large scale.
Well, Kirby has repeatedly said he wants to take advantage of opportunities created by this disaster. Alaska just announced that they will be going back to all Boeing fleet. That means a bunch of very nice, some very new used Airbi will be available. We could take some of those nice A321's and NEO's early to replace the 757 fleet....I'm sure we could get a killer deal on some new 777-9's that have been cancelled by other airlines.

Then we are still taking the Chinese A319's. Those should be available to replace the lost RJ flying....put me in charge!

But, Scott is up!

AxlF16 10-13-2020 10:21 AM
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3144682)
Well, Kirby has repeatedly said he wants to take advantage of opportunities created by this disaster. Alaska just announced that they will be going back to all Boeing fleet. That means a bunch of very nice, some very new used Airbi will be available. We could take some of those nice A321's and NEO's early to replace the 757 fleet....I'm sure we could get a killer deal on some new 777-9's that have been cancelled by other airlines.

Then we are still taking the Chinese A319's. Those should be available to replace the lost RJ flying....put me in charge!

But, Scott is up!
We're also still taking delivery of the EasyJet 319s.

Hedley 10-13-2020 10:32 AM
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald (Post 3144682)
Well, Kirby has repeatedly said he wants to take advantage of opportunities created by this disaster. Alaska just announced that they will be going back to all Boeing fleet. That means a bunch of very nice, some very new used Airbi will be available. We could take some of those nice A321's and NEO's early to replace the 757 fleet....I'm sure we could get a killer deal on some new 777-9's that have been cancelled by other airlines.

Then we are still taking the Chinese A319's. Those should be available to replace the lost RJ flying....put me in charge!

But, Scott is up!
I’d love to see a bunch of 320 series planes show up. One of the reasons that I decided not to upgrade prior to this was not only the small difference in pay for more days and more work, but I decided that 10,000 hours of 737 time is enough. Boeing and Airbus will also be cutting some deals trying to get their production lines going again. The 737 max 10, if we get it, will handle most of what the 757 does, but it’s definitely still just a big 737. The recovery could accelerate the modernization of our fleet through Max deliveries and other aircraft that become a bargain. We could end up taking back flying, or it could just be more of the same. Should be an interesting show either way.

BenTover 10-13-2020 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Nucflash (Post 3144669)
That is the reality but it doesn’t affect HIM....therefore he doesn’t give two $hits.
Oh really now?

UAL97 10-13-2020 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3144659)
I think that COVID will change the industry, not just United. The fact that the 50 seat fleet is getting old with no real replacement, and also that they are hated by our customers helps our cause. I’d love to see more 737-700/319’s, or even better, new A220’s serving the medium markets while the 50 seaters go away and the smallest markets get the 76 seaters. I’d really love to see the regionals get gutted and the legacy airlines take back flying, but I don’t expect that to happen any time soon on any large scale.
Already seeing some of that for November it appears. I see we are doing IAH-PNS on a 319 with a 30 hr layover. That's a new one.

Aquaticus 10-13-2020 11:41 AM
Originally Posted by UAL97 (Post 3144724)
Already seeing some of that for November it appears. I see we are doing IAH-PNS on a 319 with a 30 hr layover. That's a new one.
We ran full 50 seaters there forever and the old network planners (now at american) absolutely refused to upgauge anything in florida. The product on a bus or a guppy isn't great but it is light-years ahead of our 50 seat product. We will fill whatever we put on it.

hslightnin 10-13-2020 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3144686)
I’d love to see a bunch of 320 series planes show up. One of the reasons that I decided not to upgrade prior to this was not only the small difference in pay for more days and more work, but I decided that 10,000 hours of 737 time is enough. Boeing and Airbus will also be cutting some deals trying to get their production lines going again. The 737 max 10, if we get it, will handle most of what the 757 does, but it’s definitely still just a big 737. The recovery could accelerate the modernization of our fleet through Max deliveries and other aircraft that become a bargain. We could end up taking back flying, or it could just be more of the same. Should be an interesting show either way.
Was there any news on the 321xlr order?

Jimmykool 10-13-2020 01:33 PM
Off topic...but does anyone have that cheat sheet of reserve rules they could send me.

Thanks

Hedley 10-13-2020 01:51 PM
Originally Posted by hslightnin (Post 3144769)
Was there any news on the 321xlr order?
Not that I’ve read. The original order is still on the books as far as I know.


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