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Old 10-16-2020 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Why? Specifically, why?

The AA pilots have nothing good to say about him and they had a long run with him in the front office. It humors me how so many are here are washing his feet based on his Q and As and smiling face on FT. I don't get it.
They have nothing good to say because they were at the regionals at the time...sk screwed the regionals then and did again with express jet. AA pilots have dui dougie to worry about and now the new dougie to the board
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Old 10-16-2020 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Whatever Old Mako. You are going out the door. Not going to miss your cynicism, especially now when those staying will need to be positive and all pulling on the same rope. Good riddance!
Oh that made my night! Thanks! I might just stick around just to annoy you.

Read Hard Landings. Then On Wooden Wings. Talk to some of the guys who were here when Ferris, Lorenzo and Tilton were in charge. You might just learn something useful before you grab the big Yes lever again. The foundations of the union that made this job worth having have just been badly fractured. No matter how hard you hold your breath, you will never be able to give enough to save your airline. Good luck.
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Old 10-16-2020 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Oh that made my night! Thanks! I might just stick around just to annoy you.

Read Hard Landings. Then On Wooden Wings. Talk to some of the guys who were here when Ferris, Lorenzo and Tilton were in charge. You might just learn something useful before you grab the big Yes lever again. The foundations of the union that made this job worth having have just been badly fractured. No matter how hard you hold your breath, you will never be able to give enough to save your airline. Good luck.
And good luck to you in retirement. I hope you have something to retire “to”. Fishing every day will get old real quick.
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Old 10-16-2020 | 05:52 PM
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And good luck to you in retirement. I hope you have something to retire “to”. Fishing every day will get old real quick.
Fishing any time that you want sure beats the hell out of flying when you have to. I’m looking forward to being in his shoes.
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Old 10-16-2020 | 06:00 PM
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And good luck to you in retirement. I hope you have something to retire “to”. Fishing every day will get old real quick.
Ha! So does commuting, wearing hats, airports, PAX, etc etc. Enjoy!
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Old 10-16-2020 | 06:06 PM
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Nice Dr Melfi reference. And nice tie!
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Old 10-16-2020 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
Why? Specifically, why?

The AA pilots have nothing good to say about him and they had a long run with him in the front office. It humors me how so many are here are washing his feet based on his Q and As and smiling face on FT. I don't get it.
I respect you Brother it takes both sides of the argument to find the middle. Thank you for taking an EO, even if it was selfish, you saved a junior pilot. I know your career didn’t end the way you wanted but you went out doing a great thing.

as far as your question. I have seen Kirby speak several times his ego is MASSIVE. He wants to be a Howard huges or Juan Tripp. He wants the entire world to think United when they want to fly. His team has put more flying into our JV hubs. They fought LH to make the JV more fair. I remember when there was LH birds all over our hubs and we had a couple flights to FRA and one offs to MUC.

look at where he was deploying the 787s prior too Covid and even now. We have started routes all over the world to place UA and CAL never got close too.

I also believe he has handled this crisis better than any other airline. I believe him when he says he wants to crush everyone and runaway with the ball on the other side of this. We will see if he can.
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Old 10-16-2020 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
Whatever Old Mako. You are going out the door. Not going to miss your cynicism, especially now when those staying will need to be positive and all pulling on the same rope. Good riddance!
What a joke for a post. Shoot the messenger not the message. He’s going out the door so that is your justification for ignoring his years of experience?

When you’re pulling on the same rope staring at the sunlight, it sure does suck when you realize it isn’t knotted on the end.

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Old 10-16-2020 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
I respect you Brother it takes both sides of the argument to find the middle. Thank you for taking an EO, even if it was selfish, you saved a junior pilot. I know your career didn’t end the way you wanted but you went out doing a great thing.

as far as your question. I have seen Kirby speak several times his ego is MASSIVE. He wants to be a Howard huges or Juan Tripp. He wants the entire world to think United when they want to fly. His team has put more flying into our JV hubs. They fought LH to make the JV more fair. I remember when there was LH birds all over our hubs and we had a couple flights to FRA and one offs to MUC.

look at where he was deploying the 787s prior too Covid and even now. We have started routes all over the world to place UA and CAL never got close too.

I also believe he has handled this crisis better than any other airline. I believe him when he says he wants to crush everyone and runaway with the ball on the other side of this. We will see if he can.
He didn’t save a junior pilot. Our wallets saved them. Mandingo saved his sanity and his health. Good for him.

This beatification of your CEO is nauseating. We are nothing but widgets. No one will be spared in the aggression to save the airline.
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Old 10-16-2020 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BenTover
He didn’t save a junior pilot. Our wallets saved them. Mandingo saved his sanity and his health. Good for him.

This beatification of your CEO is nauseating. We are nothing but widgets. No one will be spared in the aggression to save the airline.
why are you still here?
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