Read all the books. There comes a time when management is doing the right things for the first time in decades (not shrinking to profitability, going after and getting market share 8-12% for the last 2 years despite the objections of all analysts who changed their tune when SK actually did it, best morale in decades, etc), that we need to have some trust. Never forget but to just blast management the whole time and our MEC that have produced some of the best contract and pay gains in years is absurd. It’s mostly the old Crusties that will never change. Bottom 1/3rd had great energy and motivation and little disdain for management because our management has been great under Oscar and now Scott. Middle 1/3rd was screwed over twice by the senior and selfish bunch like you. The same ones that voted NO for their own interest again and complained that the makeup of the MEC had too many single and double furloughees that had inputs into the LOA. The same senior pilots that told the same single and double furloughees that they need to work on attending meetings and run for Alpa positions. They do and then the senior guys complain. The same senior guys that say, it’s a tradition and history to furlough and not try to save every union member because that’s the way it is. Well the middle 1/3 decided that they were going to make a stand and not dole out the same BS to the younger group. I’m glad to see some of the top 1/3rd got it and made the correct decision for our union brothers and sisters and righted a wrong, out-dated philosophy. We are lucky to have r the best manager in aviation running UAL. Didn’t say he wouldn’t negotiate as best as he can but he isn’t out to screw us. That’s the dinosaur mentality like you. Don’t let the door hit you in the rear as you walk out the cave.

 

To call out ridiculous posts like the one you wrote. To call OldMako selfish was beyond reproach.

I pray the notion of bankruptcy is never considered. The one you cherish so is going to clean your wallet, and mine unfortunately. All in the name of saving the airline. I’ve seen the mentality before and I’m witnessing it again.

 

Exhibit number 1. ^^^^^^^^^

 

Agreed, I have not always seen eye to eye with Mako but you hit the nail on the head here.

 

“Thank you for taking an EO, even if it was selfish, you saved a junior pilot.”

Ok, go for it.

But before you type,

*Do you think he really wanted an early out?

*Selfish?

*Even the company said these early outs weren’t really saving anyone.

As far as this mentality of saving the airline and helping the company, it’s almost verbatim from 20 years ago.

 

I don’t know why he took it.....so maybe it was selfish? Thanks either way Mako and all the other EOs you did all of us junior pilots a solid no matter how this troll tries to spin it.

And when I asked why you are still here I don’t mean on APC......I mean why are you at this airline that has clearly destroyed your life. You could have taken a two year paid early retirement to go do something that puts joy in your life......looks like you missed the boat.

but keep being a troll if it makes you happy and fulfills you. Everyone needs purpose.

 

You think I’m trolling you? Just wait until the pay cut requests come in and the true fear campaign starts. He has guys lining up to offer pay cuts. I like you dude. I’ve been reading your posts for quite a while. The words I’m hearing are flashbacks from 20 yrs ago when we’re financially destroyed and still paying for it.

 

Funny. I’m actually quite content. Again, you guys don’t like the message so that person should quit.

You’ll find out. Do yourself a favor, go talk to an American pilot.

 

I don’t believe you

 

Hahahaha..... nice one