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Old 10-14-2020 | 01:18 PM
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No surprises. Better than DAL, but we’ve got a long way to go as an industry. 1.8B net loss. 2.49B in revenue vs 11.38B yoy (down 78%)

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/unit...s-q3-2020.html
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Old 10-14-2020 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
No surprises. Better than DAL, but we’ve got a long way to go as an industry. 1.8B net loss. 2.49B in revenue vs 11.38B yoy (down 78%)

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/unit...s-q3-2020.html





a cargo subsidiary is a must I would say. Either convert or buy new ones at cheap price
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Anyone have an idea when the 777 will start getting some cargo love ?
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:07 PM
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Anyone have an idea when the 777 will start getting some cargo love ?
Saw 3 777 on cargo ramp ord when I came in today. They just arrived
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
No surprises. Better than DAL, but we’ve got a long way to go as an industry. 1.8B net loss. 2.49B in revenue vs 11.38B yoy (down 78%)

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/14/unit...s-q3-2020.html
3rd qtr 2020 8K.pdf

From the SEC 8K

Pillar 2 – Minimizing Cash Burn
• Reduced total operating costs by 59 percent versus the third quarter of 2019. Excluding special charges , reduced
operating costs by 48 percent versus the third quarter of 2019.
• Achieved target average daily cash burn during the third quarter of $21 million plus $4 million of average debt principalpayments and severance payments per day, compared to second-quarter average daily cash burn of $37 million plus $3 million of debt principal payments and severance payments per day.

Pillar 3 – Variabilizing Cost Structure
  1. Reduced non-labor operating expenses, excluding special charges and depreciation, by 63 percent in the third quarter, against a capacity reduction of 70 percent.
  2. Restructured and significantly reduced our management and administrative functions. These reductions are expected to be largely permanent, even as demand recovers.
  3. Reached a landmark agreement with its pilot group that avoids furloughs by securing flexibility in work hours while also reaching agreements to provide a path to early retirement and reduce expense through voluntary leave of absence programs. These agreements position the company to rebound quickly when demand returns.
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:23 PM
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Anyone have an idea when the 777 will start getting some cargo love ?
I’ve been flying cargo almost every day available for the last six months in a 777. At this point I think I can qualify for Guam residency.

It’s a rare (and weird) occurrence to fly with PAX or FAs aboard.
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:31 PM
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Anyone have an idea when the 777 will start getting some cargo love ?
For the most part have been flying all 300’s on cargo (have been since Spring). In Sept and Oct brought back a total of 10 200’s back to the line. Talk of more in Nov. Recently resolved a CG issue now allowing the 200’s to carry the same number of pallets as a 787 on cargo flights.

The majority of all 777 flying has been cargo. Especially now since the 787 flying is maxed out.
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:39 PM
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For the most part have been flying all 300’s on cargo (have been since Spring). In Sept and Oct brought back a total of 10 200’s back to the line. Talk of more in Nov. Recently resolved a CG issue now allowing the 200’s to carry the same number of pallets as a 787 on cargo
flights.

The majority of all 777 flying has been cargo. Especially now since the 787 flying is maxed out.
this makes sense… It seems like the fleet as a whole was being underutilized for cargo. I know there was still a fair amount going on, but the 787 cargo Mission has been kind of bananas
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Old 10-14-2020 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
a cargo subsidiary is a must I would say. Either convert or buy new ones at cheap price
Maybe.

The one big reason cargo is worth $$$ is the lack of global passenger operations and the loss of all that belly cargo capacity. Once global pax flights begin to return to normalcy there won't be the current revenue premium for cargo.

In the interim, UAL is absolutely doing cargo better than most other pax airlines.
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Everybody is screwed. That’s the general consensus I get after these earnings.
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