Prediction
10-20-2020 | 05:03 AM
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Provided the loan component of the CARES Act is still offered, the Company must claim its full original allocation by the deadline set by the US Treasury. If the Company does not subsequently access that full original allocation prior to the deadline for such access set by the US Treasury, or if the Company does not otherwise borrow or raise the amount of any shortfall to that full original allocation through any other public or private market source, then no Pilot shall be placed on furlough prior to the first day of the December 2021 Bid Period.
This is saying that no furloughs prior to DEC 1, if the company doesn’t take the full allocation.......
This is saying that no furloughs prior to DEC 1, if the company doesn’t take the full allocation.......
10-20-2020 | 08:27 AM
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Kirby wants scope relief and wasn’t going to get it pre-Covid. Now that Insler has allowed him to divide us, now will be the time to conquer us and get scope relief. He will not let this crisis go to waste. Think about it from his perspective. How can he finally attain enough votes for scope relief?
1. Give a pay raise once the furloughees hit the streets. Boom, lots of yes votes right there.
2. He will try to ensure enough yes voters with a retirement annuity since pilots just lost 8 moths of contributions to the B/C plan. Boom, more yes votes.
3. This turd of a LOA has basically ****ed off 42% of the list and the majority of them are in the top 2/3. Boom, more yes votes.
4. He can pounce with RJs.
5. Since many pilots will finally be displaced to NB from WB seats, they will look to vote yes with the 15% raise.
This is a simple plan by management. He’s just figured out how to get scope relief. Just watch how this plays out. Divide and conquer played perfectly by a shrewd CEO.
1. Give a pay raise once the furloughees hit the streets. Boom, lots of yes votes right there.
2. He will try to ensure enough yes voters with a retirement annuity since pilots just lost 8 moths of contributions to the B/C plan. Boom, more yes votes.
3. This turd of a LOA has basically ****ed off 42% of the list and the majority of them are in the top 2/3. Boom, more yes votes.
4. He can pounce with RJs.
5. Since many pilots will finally be displaced to NB from WB seats, they will look to vote yes with the 15% raise.
This is a simple plan by management. He’s just figured out how to get scope relief. Just watch how this plays out. Divide and conquer played perfectly by a shrewd CEO.
10-20-2020 | 08:35 AM
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I used to be concerned about the things I saw posted there.....until I noticed there are only ever about 8-15 users online. And it’s always the same guys.
10-20-2020 | 09:17 AM
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Kirby wants scope relief and wasn’t going to get it pre-Covid. Now that Insler has allowed him to divide us, now will be the time to conquer us and get scope relief. He will not let this crisis go to waste. Think about it from his perspective. How can he finally attain enough votes for scope relief?
1. Give a pay raise once the furloughees hit the streets. Boom, lots of yes votes right there.
2. He will try to ensure enough yes voters with a retirement annuity since pilots just lost 8 moths of contributions to the B/C plan. Boom, more yes votes.
3. This turd of a LOA has basically ****ed off 42% of the list and the majority of them are in the top 2/3. Boom, more yes votes.
4. He can pounce with RJs.
5. Since many pilots will finally be displaced to NB from WB seats, they will look to vote yes with the 15% raise.
This is a simple plan by management. He’s just figured out how to get scope relief. Just watch how this plays out. Divide and conquer played perfectly by a shrewd CEO.
1. Give a pay raise once the furloughees hit the streets. Boom, lots of yes votes right there.
2. He will try to ensure enough yes voters with a retirement annuity since pilots just lost 8 moths of contributions to the B/C plan. Boom, more yes votes.
3. This turd of a LOA has basically ****ed off 42% of the list and the majority of them are in the top 2/3. Boom, more yes votes.
4. He can pounce with RJs.
5. Since many pilots will finally be displaced to NB from WB seats, they will look to vote yes with the 15% raise.
This is a simple plan by management. He’s just figured out how to get scope relief. Just watch how this plays out. Divide and conquer played perfectly by a shrewd CEO.
10-20-2020 | 09:26 AM
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When you think you’re battling 8-15 people keep in mind 42% voted against. Many of those are pretty upset. If we lose 2000 votes on June 1 and a few LECs are flipped, I’m next. Once you combine a new and willing MEC with the open ear of management all bets are off.
I’d start saving now because more cuts are coming to save the furloughs and your MEC.
10-20-2020 | 09:38 AM
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[QUOTE=TillerTemptress;3147571]You're just flat out wrong. I wasn't able to vote on this TA, but should be able to vote on the next. Bottom third. I would have been a yes if I had been able to vote but not simply to save my own skin, but because I think it was a great deal that smartly positions us to recover more strongly and quicker and had some decent gains which considering the environment is nuts - including some scope choke and tightening up the scope restrictions and still forcing UA to pull 6 seats off the 76 seaters. I would have been a no if there were any cuts to pay or work rule cuts
How many times do we have to go through this? There ARE PAYCUTS in the LOA, the MEC just decided not to talk about them. That's why I was a NO vote.
Leaving the vacation factor at 2:20 in vacation months is a paycut, period. Please see my prior posts on this forum. I have shown the math in public.
How many times do we have to go through this? There ARE PAYCUTS in the LOA, the MEC just decided not to talk about them. That's why I was a NO vote.
Leaving the vacation factor at 2:20 in vacation months is a paycut, period. Please see my prior posts on this forum. I have shown the math in public.
10-20-2020 | 10:55 AM
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PREDICTION: The asteroid approaching Earth on Nov 2nd will make a direct impact:
1) It will kill all life on Earth
2) None of this crap will matter anyway
Making stuff up is fun...
1) It will kill all life on Earth
2) None of this crap will matter anyway
Making stuff up is fun...
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