Congratulations Delta
12-01-2020 | 10:10 AM
#81
Get me outta here...
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12-01-2020 | 01:07 PM
#82
Line Holder
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If you’re making the case that an extra-contractual approach to the pandemic was warranted, these recent votes prove you’re among the majority. But I fail to see how CARES could be a necessitating factor.
12-01-2020 | 02:51 PM
#83
777 - ret
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12-01-2020 | 03:29 PM
#84
Gets Weekends Off
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12-02-2020 | 03:13 AM
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That does not add to the discussion of whether or not the MEC message was a sell job of an already ratified and implemented LOA. Comparisons have always been side by side contractual language DURING the ratification process without “independent SMEs” assigning spiffy winners and losers green check marks and red X’s.
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12-02-2020 | 03:23 AM
#86
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They were hired to cross a picket line. They knew what they were doing.
ALPA intervened ... held their hand and kept all but 6 from crossing.
Most I have flown with were ok to fly with. Some were nut cases that never would have been hired sans the upcoming strike.
Many boasted how they ‘saved’ the airline.
Late 84 I was approached and handed an app ... I challenged the guy about UAL hiring for a strike. He confirmed it. UAL was always my first choice ... but not like that.
In the end you can’t change the facts. Spin it however you need to to ensure you feel better.
12-02-2020 | 04:13 AM
#88
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Ok ... how many. Give me a number.
They were hired to cross a picket line. They knew what they were doing.
ALPA intervened ... held their hand and kept all but 6 from crossing.
Most I have flown with were ok to fly with. Some were nut cases that never would have been hired sans the upcoming strike.
Many boasted how they ‘saved’ the airline.
Late 84 I was approached and handed an app ... I challenged the guy about UAL hiring for a strike. He confirmed it. UAL was always my first choice ... but not like that.
In the end you can’t change the facts. Spin it however you need to to ensure you feel better.
They were hired to cross a picket line. They knew what they were doing.
ALPA intervened ... held their hand and kept all but 6 from crossing.
Most I have flown with were ok to fly with. Some were nut cases that never would have been hired sans the upcoming strike.
Many boasted how they ‘saved’ the airline.
Late 84 I was approached and handed an app ... I challenged the guy about UAL hiring for a strike. He confirmed it. UAL was always my first choice ... but not like that.
In the end you can’t change the facts. Spin it however you need to to ensure you feel better.
12-02-2020 | 04:37 AM
#89
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From: DAL 330
Muddied the water? CARES simply provided 6 months of income security for those who would otherwise be on the street- if anything, giving them more time to prepare for the “standard furlough plan”.
If you’re making the case that an extra-contractual approach to the pandemic was warranted, these recent votes prove you’re among the majority. But I fail to see how CARES could be a necessitating factor.
If you’re making the case that an extra-contractual approach to the pandemic was warranted, these recent votes prove you’re among the majority. But I fail to see how CARES could be a necessitating factor.
By muddied the water I am talking about the typical historical approach which would have quickly resulted in hundreds if not thousands of furloughs. By saying "who would have otherwise been on the street" you are essentially agreeing with me. The airlines realized the standard furlough option was not viable for a few reasons and had to think outside the box - thus the extra contractual approach by DAL and UAL that some are very critical of. Some would have preferred furloughs but CARES very much limited that option.
I am not saying CAREs was not beneficial for crew members - it was very helpful.
Scoop
12-02-2020 | 04:32 PM
#90
Slam-Clicka
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I was bored. I threw a grenade and left the room. I qualified my comment by admitting I was full of it. At the end of the day.....it’s internet-tainment, and that’s all.
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