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Broncofan 01-24-2021 09:08 AM

Just came back from some training. Rumor has it they are going to staff 2019 numbers for summer 2022. They said they were briefed that means potentially 1000 new hires starting fall 2021. Not sure if I buy it, but still was encouraging to hear.

Hedley 01-25-2021 03:14 PM

What is the batting order for training when grandfather rights are involved? Do they send the grandfathered people to training first to get them back into their seats, or do they start with the senior pilots and go down the line like in most displacements?

hamato19 01-25-2021 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by Broncofan (Post 3185765)
Just came back from some training. Rumor has it they are going to staff 2019 numbers for summer 2022. They said they were briefed that means potentially 1000 new hires starting fall 2021. Not sure if I buy it, but still was encouraging to hear.

It was hard to get 1000 people in a year... Can't imagine them doing that in half a year. Not staffed up enough on the pilot development side

rvfanatic 01-25-2021 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3186422)
What is the batting order for training when grandfather rights are involved? Do they send the grandfathered people to training first to get them back into their seats, or do they start with the senior pilots and go down the line like in most displacements?

There is no transparency in the training plan. One of the big issues IMO. I can hold my pre displacement seat but will not be bidding it because I don’t want to lose my current training slot next month (roughly same pay rate) and the associated hours I’ll get on OE. Bird in hand sort of thing. I need to get back to work, it’s time. If you figure it out the training plan before the bid closes tomorrow let me know!

Hedley 01-25-2021 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by rvfanatic (Post 3186447)
There is no transparency in the training plan. One of the big issues IMO. I can hold my pre displacement seat but will not be bidding it because I don’t want to lose my current training slot next month (roughly same pay rate) and the associated hours I’ll get on OE. Bird in hand sort of thing. I need to get back to work, it’s time. If you figure it out the training plan before the bid closes tomorrow let me know!

Lots of unknowns. Will closed bases be reopened? If so, how big, how senior, and where to? Will WB flying even come back in the next year? How long will the LOA and pay protection last? Will there be another vacancy? If people bid vacancies and the flying is slow to recover, how deep will the G-line go?.......... I’d love another 10 months nonqual to think about it.

F15andMD11 01-26-2021 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3186422)
What is the batting order for training when grandfather rights are involved? Do they send the grandfathered people to training first to get them back into their seats...

Good question. Also consider that there are other completed bids. The "Do/Over" process, the last vacancy and the last displacement, all generated training events. I'd like to believe they'd go in at least that order, but who knows. Another consideration, for the pay protected pilots, is there really any rush? I'm hoping the priority will be for those that can accomplish short courses that they get scheduled before they become longer courses.

rvfanatic 01-26-2021 03:46 PM

2106V Award is out

TransWorld 01-26-2021 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by hamato19 (Post 3186433)
It was hard to get 1000 people in a year... Can't imagine them doing that in half a year. Not staffed up enough on the pilot development side

AA hired 939 in 2018. That was the highest I have seen in recent years. Double that? Shakes head.

Aldo Raine 01-31-2021 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by hamato19 (Post 3186433)
It was hard to get 1000 people in a year... Can't imagine them doing that in half a year. Not staffed up enough on the pilot development side

“potentially 1000 starting fall 2021”

Key word.

Aldo Raine 01-31-2021 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3186925)
AA hired 939 in 2018. That was the highest I have seen in recent years. Double that? Shakes head.

See above.


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