2StgTurbine

Then please go and enjoy your retirement. If conspiracy theories are your retirement hobby, then hang out under an overpass and rant there.

Huell

Great opportunity for them to insert the 5G chip. Easier way to track us than the iPad.

Maybe Extrem87 can chime in on this.

mrmak2

Ready, Fire, Aim.

Nothing bad ever happened from that strategy

duvie

Well, first, if I get an adverse reaction I’ll go on LTD and get paid 9K post tax to watch my kids while my wife works. It’s a harder job than flying airplanes, but more rewarding.

secondly, it’s a simple risk analysis. If the lethality is in fact 1/500 as you say, then the adverse effects of the vaccine would have to manifest themselves more frequently than the lethality rate (and so Far it isn’t even close) to make it not worth while. So, if they were both 1/500, which would you rather be gambling with, your life or a non lethal negative reaction to the vaccine? The logic just doesn’t hold up.

third, a vaccinated population will absolutely have a lower r-naught

Grumble

You need to look at the facts, as they're out there. 99% of the COVID deaths (that aren't people dying of other things and being pronounced as COVID) are over the age of 50.

The vaccine (all brands lumped together) has an 86x higher rate of fatal reactions than influenza.

60% of all health care workers are either hesitant or refusing to get the vaccine.

911 calls regarding allergic reactions are up over 500% and climbing since the vaccine started rolling out.

People who have had COVID or are anti-gen positive, make up over 80% of the adverse reactions.

And here's my favorite fact.... THE COVID VACCINE DOESN'T PREVENT YOU GETTING OR SPREADING IT. All it does is lesson the symptoms if and when you do contract it.

Airhoss

In your expert medical opinion does voluntarily taking the vaccination show an increased or decreased IQ?

2StgTurbine

According to the CDC, 2.7% of the deaths were under 54. More interesting is that COVID accounts for 4% of all causes of death for those under 54.

That is a very bold claim that I could not find a reference for at all. I am not aware of any deaths due to the vaccines the US is using.

In an NPR poll, half of that 60% didn't really refuse it. They either were not aware that they qualified (like psychologists who contract with hospitals but are only seeing patients over zoom) or they thought that since they weren't working directly with COVID patients, they didn't want to waste a vaccine and would rather it go to someone who REALLY needed it. And my AME thinks COVID is a biological weapon made by China and Bill Gates is behind the vaccine... so just because a person is in the medical field doesn't mean they are intelligent.

I don't doubt that. Lots of people don't get vaccines as an adult at all, so they aren't even aware that they are allergic. It's easy to get a 500% increase when the baseline value was already low. My wife got an allergic reaction to the yellow fever shot. It was scary at first, but no one in the ER seemed to care. They put her in a bed mainly to make use feel better. After a couple of hours, she was fine. A short term allergic reaction is way better than COVID.

It's not that it doesn't prevent transmission, it's just that they didn't control for that specifically in the testing. Since they didn't run the trial long enough to prove it stops transmission, they have to assume the worst-case scenario. Kind of like a CDL limitation for 250 KIAS for a missing access panel. The plane probably could go faster, but they never certified it that way.

BoilerUP

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...es/burden.html

The 22 Jan 21 CDC update has CFR at 1.67%.

CDC has 4.6 estimated actual infections to every confirmed positive case. That would make Infection Fatality Ratio 0.36%.

Halon1211

what happen to my body, my choice?

Halon1211

Hopefully they will exempt pregnant women from this.