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[777] loses cowling on departure from DEN
03-08-2021, 03:58 AM
#141
777 - ret
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
Posts: 863
Originally Posted by oldmako
I'll be amazed if those planes aren't flying somewhere, pax or boxes, 20 years from now. Hell, 727s are still flying.
03-08-2021, 11:53 AM
#144
777 - ret
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
Posts: 863
Be still my heart.
I will confess to placing my Garmin antenna in the back window then ...
Seattle center United xxx request.
United xxx go ahead.
United xxx would like to fly a course of 113 degrees, to modify as necessary, until receiving ORD, then direct.
United xxx proceed as requested.
I will confess to placing my Garmin antenna in the back window then ...
Seattle center United xxx request.
United xxx go ahead.
United xxx would like to fly a course of 113 degrees, to modify as necessary, until receiving ORD, then direct.
United xxx proceed as requested.
03-08-2021, 01:03 PM
#145
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: The GF of FUPM
Posts: 3,073
On my 727 IOE as F/O, the Captain would always ask for direct to XYZ and XYZ was ALWAYS way down the road. This would confuse the controller. But often they'd say...OK. Then the Captain would say, can you please suggest a heading? The controller would and we'd smile and motor down the road. He had a buddy in ATC and he explained that there was a limitation in giving us direct at shorter distances, but not at large ones. So, reaching TOC out of ORD for MIA he'd ask for Seminole or something a thousand miles off. And we'd get em. At each new sector, "....and we're flying a heading of 123 for XYZ"
The controller would usually come back with, "OK, suggest right (left) 5 degrees, and off we'd go. Dialing in VORs all day got old. That wing leveler was great for heading hold and not much else! Remember those idiotic arrivals into New York?
I suggested that trick when flying the line and guys would look at me like I was nuts.
Fun times.
The controller would usually come back with, "OK, suggest right (left) 5 degrees, and off we'd go. Dialing in VORs all day got old. That wing leveler was great for heading hold and not much else! Remember those idiotic arrivals into New York?
I suggested that trick when flying the line and guys would look at me like I was nuts.
Fun times.
03-08-2021, 01:37 PM
#146
777 - ret
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Position: Waco CG-4 center seat
Posts: 863
Originally Posted by oldmako
On my 727 IOE as F/O, the Captain would always ask for direct to XYZ and XYZ was ALWAYS way down the road. This would confuse the controller. But often they'd say...OK. Then the Captain would say, can you please suggest a heading? The controller would and we'd smile and motor down the road. He had a buddy in ATC and he explained that there was a limitation in giving us direct at shorter distances, but not at large ones. So, reaching TOC out of ORD for MIA he'd ask for Seminole or something a thousand miles off. And we'd get em. At each new sector, "....and we're flying a heading of 123 for XYZ"
The controller would usually come back with, "OK, suggest right (left) 5 degrees, and off we'd go. Dialing in VORs all day got old. That wing leveler was great for heading hold and not much else! Remember those idiotic arrivals into New York?
I suggested that trick when flying the line and guys would look at me like I was nuts.
Fun times.
The controller would usually come back with, "OK, suggest right (left) 5 degrees, and off we'd go. Dialing in VORs all day got old. That wing leveler was great for heading hold and not much else! Remember those idiotic arrivals into New York?
I suggested that trick when flying the line and guys would look at me like I was nuts.
Fun times.
03-08-2021, 05:10 PM
#147
Gets Everyday Off
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: Relaxed
Posts: 6,945
Originally Posted by John Carr
Being a magenta crayon and draw on the paperwork with it.
How big a computer did you have in Friendship 7? What computer? All I had was a grease pencil, a wipe off board, and a slide rule.
03-09-2021, 10:15 AM
#149
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: 747 Captain (Ret,)
Posts: 804
One of my first trips as a new hire 727 F/E in 1978, we took off just after midnight out of CLE for LAX. Approaching top of climb, the Captain told the F/O to request direct LAX. The controller queried us: "Gee, I didn't know that you guys had INS on your 727s." Captain replied, "We don't have INS, but we do have ACARS." The controller came back, "OK, cleared LAX via ACARS direct."
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