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Old 08-11-2021 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
We need welders. Anyone age 16 in OR should drop out of High School and learn a trade.
No more welding tests. Anyone can do it. All tests and standards waivered for anyone of the 43 government approved genders. Maybe I should just go learn to weld for myself. At least i will take pride in doing it right and learning it right.
Old 08-12-2021 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Welders, etc. are taught fractions math in their apprentice programs.
Well there you go! I’m sure other scientific stuff about metallurgy and gasses. And how to get a job.
Old 08-12-2021 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
No more welding tests. Anyone can do it. All tests and standards waivered for anyone of the 43 government approved genders. Maybe I should just go learn to weld for myself. At least i will take pride in doing it right and learning it right.
I learned some very basic welding during college. At some point I will take a formal class. I’ve had many times when I could have used the skills in my own garage.
Old 08-12-2021 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
I learned some very basic welding during college. At some point I will take a formal class. I’ve had many times when I could have used the skills in my own garage.
Unless you want to go for certification, just skip formal classes, get a multiprocess machine so you can learn mig and stick, read, and practice…… a lot. That’s what I did. Countless hours running beads on a pad with different electrodes, flat, uphill, downhill, different joints, thick metal, thin metal, etc. Trips to the scrap metal yard can provide cheap material to learn on. I’d never earn a living, but it’s a fun hobby.
Old 08-12-2021 | 09:33 AM
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Despite all of the griping here, one only need to look at the photos in the flight ops update showing the last 8 new hire classes which are still 97%+ white guys. UA's diversity efforts are a good first step towards trying to get this place slightly more diverse.
Old 08-12-2021 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Despite all of the griping here, one only need to look at the photos in the flight ops update showing the last 8 new hire classes which are still 97%+ white guys. UA's diversity efforts are a good first step towards trying to get this place slightly more diverse.
I really don’t care about diversity. As long as the pilots that we hire are highly qualified, professional, and pleasant to work with on a 4 day trip, who cares what they look like, their politics, religion, etc?
Old 08-12-2021 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Despite all of the griping here, one only need to look at the photos in the flight ops update showing the last 8 new hire classes which are still 97%+ white guys. UA's diversity efforts are a good first step towards trying to get this place slightly more diverse.
I'm OK with outreach, but you realistically have to account for the fact that very few women actually want this lifestyle. Minorities, different story, but you need to reach out to school-age people to set them up for more future opportunities. There's no vast pool of non-white-male aviators who can't get an interview. Quite the opposite actually.

Their approach is pretty toxic to the all of the people who do make up the vast majority of their pool of realistically qualified applicants. Could they tone it down a bit perhaps? They're blatantly pandering to a public which doesn't have the slightest clue about the realities of professional aviation. Their approach simply fosters resentment and might even drive a cultural wedge, or worse, degrade safety.
Old 08-12-2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Despite all of the griping here, one only need to look at the photos in the flight ops update showing the last 8 new hire classes which are still 97%+ white guys. UA's diversity efforts are a good first step towards trying to get this place slightly more diverse.
“diversity makes us stronger”

prove it.
Old 08-12-2021 | 01:48 PM
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Ban white new balances and tucked in polo shirts during layovers, and you'll improve diversity overnight.
Old 08-12-2021 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by HwkrPlt
Ban white new balances and tucked in polo shirts during layovers, and you'll improve diversity overnight.
If you want to go for the trifecta, add cell phone holsters to the list.
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