United diversity.......
05-31-2021 | 06:12 PM
#711
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Just about anyone can FLY an airplane. At the passenger transport level, it’s not really about flying skills as much as judgment and decisive action. When it comes to command decisions, calm nerves under extreme circumstances, and overall comfort with being in charge while not being overbearing? All are not created equal.
06-01-2021 | 04:36 AM
#712
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Just about anyone can FLY an airplane. At the passenger transport level, it’s not really about flying skills as much as judgment and decisive action. When it comes to command decisions, calm nerves under extreme circumstances, and overall comfort with being in charge while not being overbearing? All are not created equal.
06-01-2021 | 05:10 AM
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My observation is if one doesn’t have good flying skills they make up for it by being deficient in everything else. Lousy flying skills= Poor decision making, low confidence, they are uncomfortable and edgy making for a horrible flight deck environment and all that leads to horrible leadership skills.
06-01-2021 | 05:27 AM
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And writing our name in the snow.
Yet equal outcomes are expectd.
True.
Also true.
Yet equal outcomes are expectd.
My observation is if one doesn’t have good flying skills they make up for it by being deficient in everything else. Lousy flying skills= Poor decision making, low confidence, they are uncomfortable and edgy making for a horrible flight deck environment and all that leads to horrible leadership skills.
Also true.
06-01-2021 | 10:53 AM
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06-01-2021 | 05:24 PM
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Happy pride month 🚁🚁🚁💪!!!
06-02-2021 | 07:23 AM
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Not speaking about general discrimination in the USA, but UAL has for over 40 years (since 1978) done its best to hire pilots and FAs without discrimination, and frankly to extend preferential hiring based on ethnicity, race, sex, age and gender. The numbers speak for them themselves and to say other wise is to be blind or worse, out right telling a lie.
Fast forward 40+ years, United has adopted and been a leader in diversity hiring in our industry. They walk the talk every day. I have no doubt that eventually United would have gotten to this point naturally as we are seeing with many other companies and industries, but the original EEOC involvement jump started the process putting United far ahead of others.
06-02-2021 | 10:25 AM
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But one little detail that you didn’t mention: all that diversity hiring was the result of an EEOC consent decree with United to change its pilot hiring practices to include more minorities and females that were hired. Via other lawsuits about sex and age discrimination for flight attendants, United was forced to change its policies.
Fast forward 40+ years, United has adopted and been a leader in diversity hiring in our industry. They walk the talk every day. I have no doubt that eventually United would have gotten to this point naturally as we are seeing with many other companies and industries, but the original EEOC involvement jump started the process putting United far ahead of others.
Fast forward 40+ years, United has adopted and been a leader in diversity hiring in our industry. They walk the talk every day. I have no doubt that eventually United would have gotten to this point naturally as we are seeing with many other companies and industries, but the original EEOC involvement jump started the process putting United far ahead of others.
06-02-2021 | 11:08 AM
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We won't be a winner until we stop being a loser. If we're worried about percentages of various categories of minorities instead of simply hiring the best of the best we are losing. We are losing better candidates to our competitors. Playing to win implies a willingness and a want to - to compete that is. I guess we will hire the best and brightest diversity candidates we can find. That about sums it up.
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