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06-02-2021 | 03:39 PM

#721

Guppydriver95

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Originally Posted by JoePatroni

I have yet to fly with a new pilot that didn’t do a fantastic job, I wouldn’t say we are “losing” at all.

and based on incident/accident occurrences among the majors, I’d say we’re winnng.

06-02-2021 | 03:50 PM

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and based on incident/accident occurrences among the majors, I’d say we’re winnng.

Wait, the sky isn't falling?? You mean, we actually do a GOOD job hiring pilots? Whodathunkit?

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06-03-2021 | 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JoePatroni

I have yet to fly with a new pilot that didn’t do a fantastic job, I wouldn’t say we are “losing” at all.

I don't think any of us have flown with the new crop of diversity pilots. They don't exist yet except in the imagination of HR, SK, and OBAP.

BTW, it's not about "doing a fantastic job." It's mostly about paying your dues to get here and earning your way into the profession. if you "earned your way" into the profession by being a certain race or gender, then you really didn't earn it. It was given to you.

06-03-2021 | 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95

and based on incident/accident occurrences among the majors, I’d say we’re winnng.

The NTSB Report of the hard landing in EWR with the underqualified LOE CK Airman isn't published still. That wasn't what I would call a win. That airplane can't be re-used. That's a hull loss "statistically speaking of course."

06-03-2021 | 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oletimer

What about our new hire that was killed by diversity? Winning?

06-03-2021 | 04:05 PM

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What about our new hire that was killed by diversity? Winning?

Are you referring to the Atlas crash?

06-03-2021 | 04:24 PM

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Are you referring to the Atlas crash?

yes………….I am

06-03-2021 | 05:10 PM

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How does that apply to the guy who got hired at 21 with 2000 hours because his father was a check airman?

06-03-2021 | 07:08 PM

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How does that apply to the guy who got hired at 21 with 2000 hours because his father was a check airman?

There has to be at least 3 or 4 of those guys in the system.

06-04-2021 | 03:29 AM

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Of course, that accident would never have happened if the check airman was a man. Woman makes a mistake, she's under qualified. You make a mistake, then every excuse in the book applies. Again, this thread is a great example of the reason this program is needed. I can only hope that people who think like you are being removed from the hiring process.

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