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Old 04-17-2021 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by captive apple
That is the part i don’t understand. While he married into the royal bloodline shouldn’t he be a king?
Thats not relevant.

What IS relevant is wether or not the Dutchess is Sussex will be going into AVIATE?
Old 04-17-2021 | 11:23 AM
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So who is running checking/training standards at the flight school? Surely there will be a CCS message fishing for a director of training and standards for TK-Aviate division?

Maybe we can harvest some talent from the throngs of ex 787 training managers.
Old 04-17-2021 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
Since this conversation keeps drifting to the idea of hiring minority pilots with reduced criteria, it bears repeating that the initiative in question is about finding minority candidates to include in the Aviate program that trains prospective candidates from zero to the career stage so that they arrive at that point equally qualified among their peers.

Hiring a woman with a wet ATP & poor flying skills over a dude w/ multiple engineering degrees & left seat heavy time has nothing to do with the Aviate diversity goal; but it is a much easier position to attack.
it worked for Meryl, Mary, and Shirley.
All were living breathing proof that you only need one pilot on the flight deck.
Old 04-17-2021 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Huell
it worked for Meryl, Mary, and Shirley.
All were living breathing proof that you only need one pilot on the flight deck.
Yeah..... Those three were perfect examples of why politics and optics have no place in the hiring department.
Old 04-17-2021 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Thats not relevant.

What IS relevant is wether or not the Dutchess is Sussex will be going into AVIATE?
Clearly she's qualified. Minority plus female. Sign her up.
Old 04-17-2021 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AAL763
Click Here for Video.
Most likely one of United’s newest hires. Haha
uh you didn’t ask hahahahahaha

she cracks me up I can’t stop laughing o m g

schools are now putting solos at the end of the curriculum...hopefully this isn’t true for her....wowzer
Old 04-17-2021 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
Yes it is, but it’s like we’re living in different realities. If you stacked all of the candidates ordinally based on objective criteria, and then said we have 50 slots and anyone below this line is cut, you would not achieve a 50 percent minority acceptance goal historically. It’s only when performance is a secondary factor of the equation that you would achieve that.

Your argument seems to imply that accepting the best into Aviate is secondary to race and gender.
I think a lot of people are under this impression that you can objectively rank your candidates from 1 to 75,000 and just pick the top 10K. But we’re talking about admission to a flight school. Most applicants will have zero flight time or aviation experience, so what metrics are you going to use to make those rankings? Aptitude tests? (Can be helpful, but certainly not definitive.) In person interviews are far from objective. (How many excellent pilots have you known that interviewed here & didn’t get the job?) The Hogan? High school grades? (You’re gonna cut a guy who eats & breathes aviation because the other guy rocked it on his AP Chem test?)

How do you tell that #526 is 1 ranking better than #527, and so on? Show me a ranking system that does this & I’ll show you a consulting firm that walked away with $10M of our profit sharing by pulling the Hogan 2.0 entirely out of their backsides.

If you believe that it is, in fact possible to rank people that specifically, then I can totally follow your logic that a diversity initiative must necessarily involve compromising standards. I don’t personally believe that it is possible, which pretty well sums up the point where our realities diverge.

And understand, I’m not even arguing that implementing a diversity target is the right way to do things, just that as long as they are doing it in choosing from among well qualified candidates, it is a social, not a safety issue.
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Their first criteria will likely be the Hogan.
Old 04-17-2021 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
Air India has more female pilots I believe in case UAL HR is counting.
Yeah and this is what it looks like at 30W in a B777 when you're heading from FRA to ORD. No relief pilot and a 22 year old who doesn't have a third of the hours needed for a American ATP.
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Old 04-17-2021 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by YAKflyer
Yeah and this is what it looks like at 30W in a B777 when you're heading from FRA to ORD. No relief pilot and a 22 year old who doesn't have a third of the hours needed for a American ATP.
Yea not the standard to be shooting for!

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