Similar stories but the media thinks we all were just handed it cause we are white

 

I would like to help organizations that help young kids.....in general.

 

Hahaha!! One of the best posts I've read on this site in a while.

 

Maybe your trying to pin him down to hard to prove a point and not discuss to learn.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to think the Tuskegee Airmen inspired black youth. Perfectly acceptable to think that if United's goals are achieved it will inspire girls and black youth.

The discusion of how to achieve that goal, or if it can be achieved is separate from who will be inspired.

If you needed a job, would you be inspired to work for? Would it be Emirates if you saw or heard they hire at least 50% expats? What if you saw or heard only French nationals work for AirFrance? What if AirFrance reported they had 1% expats on property but have no stated goals of who to hire to avoid upsetting French nationals?

 

Putting aside the painfully poorly written and difficult to follow aspect of this post, I think the content is a giant non sequitur, making it somewhat difficult to respond to. I think you’re trying to say that if I wanted to go fly for Emirates or Air France, and if expats are only 1% of their pilot force, I then wouldn’t be inspired to apply there. And the only response I have for that is a giant facepalm. I’ve read some off the wall stuff before. But that takes the cake.

 

The winner....and still champion!

BTW, not all females think like Ooof!

 

I apologize for butchering that.

You seemed offended at OOfff saying United's goals would inspire minority youth and young women. I also think United's goals would inspire minority youth and young women.

I referenced the Tuskegee Airmen as an example from the past where youth may have been inspired by pilots who looked like them.

Your post about Micheal Jordan and Tiger Woods made it appear that you disagree with OOfff about what inspires young people.

OOfff's post seemed to talk about inspiring people to work at United, and you jumped to racism and saying Micheal Jordan was your role model.

 

I don't buy this. I'm a minority immigrant to this country and growing up every time we flew as a kid, I always tried to stop at the end of the flight to see the flight deck. It was always white male men, and guess what, every single one was receptive and made me believe I could do it. When I told an Airtran crew I was a student pilot (later in my teens), they let me sit in the seat and program the FMS (of course told me what to push). I never needed to see a brown guy up there to know that I could do it.

I just don't buy the argument that someone has to look my skin color in order for me to do their job. This is 2021, we should be beyond pettiness like this.

Another thing, in our culture pilots just aren't thought of being the rock stars that some might think they are. A pilot job doesn't technically require a degree, most know that, and in our culture this bias is established. It doesn't matter if you are making six figures flying Airbus or Boeing. An example, my degree is in engineering. My family and I were at a wedding and my father was introducing us kids to some other friends. When it came to my turn, he said here is my second son and he's, uh, his background is in engineering. And then moved on to the next son. In some cultures, showing you're educated is more important than telling someone you're just a pilot. Of course later in private I talked to my father and called him on it, that next time you should introduce me and then say what my job is, not my degree.

Growing up, both my parents were against me becoming an airline pilot. Father thought after 9/11 people that looked like us wouldn't be hired, mother thought it was too dangerous. The biggest obstacle I faced was never white men in aviation. It was family, people who looked like me, and convincing them that this IS what I want to do and that I do want to do it. In the end, father did support me and both parents are proud. But it took a lot of convincing, begging, etc.

Lastly as a minority, I do think the anger against white men, white privilege, all of it, needs to be toned down. I'm seeing the country be torn with these self-created (largely, media created) race divisions.

 

Beatnavy needs a hobby

 

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