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Old 08-14-2021 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR
Arnold is a badass! Halon just in a couple weeks it will be full fda and all businesses will fall in line to mandate…too much liability to not require it…you will not be able to do much
I thought it takes years to approved a vaccine. Why is this one so rushed?
Old 08-14-2021 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fishn
660k died “with” covid not “from” covid. So yea not the same thing. Don’t forget that the better part of last year if it was merely assumed they died from covid, no test needed, it was considered a covid death. I know people do die from it but you talk about pulling the wool over the eyes. SMH.
Not according to a Virginia Commonwealth study:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...?resultClick=1

What statistical method did you use to analyze the data and come up with a lower number? Maybe just parroting Tucker?
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
2 Years ago, baker to gay couple "Get out of my store, we don't serve your kind here".

Today, Baker to gay couple "You can't kick me out of your store for not wearing a mask! You can't ask me for a vax card! Mah rights!"

My how the tables turn.
I have mixed opinions about what a private business can and can’t do, but I would say a majority of people on here have made the argument that a private business can dictate what’s required of its employees and customers. There’s also a huge difference, between a private business not letting you in a store compared to the government not letting you shop somewhere because there’s nothing in the constitution that prevents them from doing so. Apparently shopping is a privilege so if the government prohibits me from doing so… oh well, it was fun to be privileged. Now back to reality. I’m cool with it.
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
no one is forcing you. Depending on where you live though, you may not be able to go into a store without one. You certainly can’t ride on a plane without one. Of course those activities are not rights guaranteed by the constitution so it’s hard to say a freedom is being taken away.
Exactly, and we are at the point that even if something is a right, you don’t have the right to put everyone else at risk and possibly murder someone. If the vaccine were prohibitively expensive or difficult to get it would be one thing. It’s not. Therefore, if someone isn’t willing to get it, taking away what might be considered a “right” isn’t unreasonable. All we’re asking is to protect society in an easy way. Do it, or get out for all we care.
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:20 AM
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So what's the next right you would be willing to take away in the name of protecting society? Where does it end?
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
I have mixed opinions about what a private business can and can’t do, but I would say a majority of people on here have made the argument that a private business can dictate what’s required of its employees and customers. There’s also a huge difference, between a private business not letting you in a store compared to the government not letting you shop somewhere because there’s nothing in the constitution that prevents them from doing so. Apparently shopping is a privilege so if the government prohibits me from doing so… oh well, it was fun to be privileged. Now back to reality. I’m cool with it.
You mean like: “No Shoes, No Shirt, No Service”? Oh the travesty. I bet people in North Korea don’t even have such a draconian assault on their liberty!
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by eagleatr
So what's the next right you would be willing to take away in the name of protecting society? Where does it end?
What ‘right’ was taken away from you? Maybe assembly, unless you get vaccinated? When all else fails argue the slippery slope.
Old 08-14-2021 | 06:27 AM
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Being required by law to do something you know is unsafe doesn't mean you're not free. It means the government is your enemy.

Ref: Declaration of Independence "safety and happiness".

The people who want everyone to be vaxed deserve their own government too.

Ref: Declaration of Independence "safety and happiness".
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Originally Posted by Justaguy19
Exactly, and we are at the point that even if something is a right, you don’t have the right to put everyone else at risk and possibly murder someone. If the vaccine were prohibitively expensive or difficult to get it would be one thing. It’s not. Therefore, if someone isn’t willing to get it, taking away what might be considered a “right” isn’t unreasonable. All we’re asking is to protect society in an easy way. Do it, or get out for all we care.
Have you been vaxxed for flu every year? Children are at least twice as likely to do die from flu than Covid. They’re also more likely to die from RSV than Covid. If you or anyone you know hasnt been vaxxed every single year for flu or don’t wear masks for the rest of your life you are a child murdering hypocrite.

Also, the vaccine is starting to lose its effectiveness after just a few months. Pfizer is showing to only be currently around 40% effective. Because of this, Dr. Fauci is now starting to call for booster shots every 6 months. If you don’t get your booster shot every 6 months… there’s still a 60% chance you’re still a murderer. And that’s currently. In a few months the vaccine will most likely be completely worthless without a booster.
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Originally Posted by fadec
Being required by law to do something you know is unsafe doesn't mean you're not free. It means the government is your enemy.

Ref: Declaration of Independence "safety and happiness".

The people who want everyone to be vaxed deserve their own government too.

Ref: Declaration of Independence "safety and happiness".
60,000 have died from flu some years. Every year (except 2020) more children have died from flu than from covid. What is your cut off for acceptable deaths? You’re ok with 60,000 dead in the past and MORE children dead, but now all the sudden you’re worried about safety?
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