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Old 07-08-2021, 05:30 AM
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True, read carefully what I said in an earlier post. The percentage of APPLICANTS HIRED goes down as age goes up.
I think what you mean to say is the percentage of older applicants that are hired amongst that pool is lower. Otherwise, what Larry said is still correct. If the percentage of older applicants applicants is smaller than the younger applicants, they would inherently be hired at lower percentages without any bias simply because there are less of them.
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Old 07-08-2021, 07:52 AM
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Those regional pilots don’t fill the total demand for flying to be done. If those pilots at the regionals aren’t replaced at the same rate the majors hire them, then the flying has to move to the majors as well, leaving the ratios the same.

The majors either need to move the flying to ml or find quick replacements at the regionals. Feed is too important.

That’s true, it wouldn’t be 100%. If most of the 5k new active ATPs every year are new hire regional FOs, that’s about the current amount of mainline pilots being hired. So as of right now, there is about as many new active ATPs as being hired at mainline. You will still have a large percentage of regional pilots that are available for hire, despite some of that flying shifting to mainline. That doesn’t count pilots from military, corporate, etc that apply at mainline. So I guess you can say there may be a shortage of pilots are the regional level.
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Old 07-09-2021, 12:05 PM
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Dont present a liberal with fact, CNN and MSNBC told them you’re wrong. Standby for nazi/racist/xenophobic allegations in 3… 2… 1…
Well I feel both Left and Right spectrums are composed of extremes and represents a small number of US population. Most of the US population are in the center with slight left or right leanings.

Although I will say most folks in.center right have now shifted to the right completely thanks to crazy conspiracy theories like Qanon etc.

Just my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2021, 01:42 PM
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Well I feel both Left and Right spectrums are composed of extremes and represents a small number of US population. Most of the US population are in the center with slight left or right leanings.

Although I will say most folks in.center right have now shifted to the right completely thanks to crazy conspiracy theories like Qanon etc.

Just my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2021, 02:08 PM
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3261242[/url]]Well I feel both Left and Right spectrums are composed of extremes and represents a small number of US population. Most of the US population are in the center with slight left or right leanings.

Although I will say most folks in.center right have now shifted to the right completely thanks to crazy conspiracy theories like Qanon etc.

Just my opinion.
interesting. You assert most are center with left or right leanings, then say most of the right-of-center have gone extreme, as though there are few on the right that are just right-of-center because of conspiracy theorists; while most on the left are mostly center.

If in fact that’s true, then most center-left people have gone fully left as well, thanks to the woke/crt/BLM movement.

The country has become so polarized there is very little center.
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Old 07-09-2021, 11:18 PM
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interesting. You assert most are center with left or right leanings, then say most of the right-of-center have gone extreme, as though there are few on the right that are just right-of-center because of conspiracy theorists; while most on the left are mostly center.

If in fact that’s true, then most center-left people have gone fully left as well, thanks to the woke/crt/BLM movement.

The country has become so polarized there is very little center.
Yea I totally agree it's bad out there. In case of BLM I kinda feel it's been weaponised a little bit. I mean there are people now trying to get huge settlements for criminals who were either clearly resisting arrest or fleeing the police in bodycam footages.

My views on BLM have changed immensely after nearly being carjacked and tasered to death. I went from supporter to skeptic. I do consider myself to be in center. I stay as far away as possible from social media echo chambers and only watch fact based or international media like Nbc, cnbc, RT, BBC, Reuters etc.
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Old 07-10-2021, 09:38 AM
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Yea I totally agree it's bad out there. In case of BLM I kinda feel it's been weaponised a little bit. I mean there are people now trying to get huge settlements for criminals who were either clearly resisting arrest or fleeing the police in bodycam footages.

My views on BLM have changed immensely after nearly being carjacked and tasered to death. I went from supporter to skeptic. I do consider myself to be in center. I stay as far away as possible from social media echo chambers and only watch fact based or international media like Nbc, cnbc, RT, BBC, Reuters etc.
From reading your posts, you are not center. You are left of center, as there is definitely left bias in your posts. FWIW.
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Old 07-10-2021, 11:06 AM
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Yea I totally agree it's bad out there. In case of BLM I kinda feel it's been weaponised a little bit. I mean there are people now trying to get huge settlements for criminals who were either clearly resisting arrest or fleeing the police in bodycam footages.

My views on BLM have changed immensely after nearly being carjacked and tasered to death. I went from supporter to skeptic. I do consider myself to be in center. I stay as far away as possible from social media echo chambers and only watch fact based or international media like Nbc, cnbc, RT, BBC, Reuters etc.
FWIW - none of us have the amount of personal interactions and direct knowledge to really know what “most people” think.

What we do have is the distorted, self-serving and deliberately editorialized “content” that is easily misconstrued as “public opinion”. And the reported “facts” we are allowed to hear are only the shavings of the truth that serve that source’s political propaganda.

I know this is not a revelation to many here. But despite knowing it, even those on this forum often succumb to the illusion that our opinions are somehow more relevant and widely shared than we have any personally verifiable reason to believe they are.

We can only vouch for those we know and have personally discussed the topic with… and evaluated whether they have any valid basis for their statements vs. being mere parrots of others’ sensational talking points. But that list of people we truly understand is invariably a tiny fraction of what we’d like to imagine it is.

It’s psychologically difficult being a tiny insignificant piece of humanity, which is why it’s so easy to sell us on the fantasy that we are part of some great coalition of powerful agreement.
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Old 07-10-2021, 03:23 PM
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FWIW - none of us have the amount of personal interactions and direct knowledge to really know what “most people” think.

What we do have is the distorted, self-serving and deliberately editorialized “content” that is easily misconstrued as “public opinion”. And the reported “facts” we are allowed to hear are only the shavings of the truth that serve that source’s political propaganda.

I know this is not a revelation to many here. But despite knowing it, even those on this forum often succumb to the illusion that our opinions are somehow more relevant and widely shared than we have any personally verifiable reason to believe they are.

We can only vouch for those we know and have personally discussed the topic with… and evaluated whether they have any valid basis for their statements vs. being mere parrots of others’ sensational talking points. But that list of people we truly understand is invariably a tiny fraction of what we’d like to imagine it is.

It’s psychologically difficult being a tiny insignificant piece of humanity, which is why it’s so easy to sell us on the fantasy that we are part of some great coalition of powerful agreement.
Post of the decade right here. Until you realize you are a tiny, insignificant piece of humanity that doesn’t know everything, you will never actually be part of a productive debate. Instead, it’s just yelling talking points at each other, which unfortunately leads to where we’re at as a society right now. Listening is a virtue.
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Old 07-11-2021, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by glassnpowder98
Post of the decade right here. Until you realize you are a tiny, insignificant piece of humanity that doesn’t know everything, you will never actually be part of a productive debate. Instead, it’s just yelling talking points at each other, which unfortunately leads to where we’re at as a society right now. Listening is a virtue.
Well yea if you think you know everything it won't be a debate anymore it would be an argument.

I do acknowledge that I don't know everything if that's what you meant.

My core argument was that both parties or candidates now only seem to target the extreme left or the extreme right. Anyone else who seems to come along is a bonus. That's just what it looks like to me at least.
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