Scott Says Pilot Shortage Looming
07-02-2021, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
The shortage, at the mainline level, isn't now. It was, and is about to be again, at the regional level. There aren't enough pilots in the regional pipeline to fill then future needs of the mainline carriers.
United, Delta, and AA all have regionals/workload large enough to feed their operations in conjunction with military pilots.
They simply choose to train and not retain all civilian pilots who move on to other carriers/fractional/cargo.
07-02-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry in TN
The shortage, at the mainline level, isn't now. It was, and is about to be again, at the regional level. There aren't enough pilots in the regional pipeline to fill then future needs of the mainline carriers.
Tongue firmly planted in the cheek. If you do not see through that logic flaw, I cannot help you.
07-02-2021, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld;[url=tel:3258150
3258150[/url]]But it seems there is a huge number of private pilots. Therefore, there should be an excess supply of people to overfill the regional pipeline.
Tongue firmly planted in the cheek. If you do not see through that logic flaw, I cannot help you.
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07-02-2021, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Yeah, not everyone with a pilot license wants to work for the airlines, or is able for reasons other than money. Flawed logic and the arrogance of ALPA to presume such.
07-02-2021, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Specifically, ALPA pointed out the number of pilots that had earned an ATP. Not just "a pilot license". I would guess... although I don't know it as a fact... that most pilots getting an ATP are looking to something in the professional piloting world.
07-02-2021, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
Specifically, ALPA pointed out the number of pilots that had earned an ATP. Not just "a pilot license". I would guess... although I don't know it as a fact... that most pilots getting an ATP are looking to something in the professional piloting world.
Didn’t they go a step further and actually specify the number of active (current medical) ATPs? I thought I read that somewhere.
07-03-2021, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CANEWT
Currently at the airport where I fly about 1 in 10 private students want to fly as a career. It's only one data point, but it is a data point.
I’d say that’s very close to what I observed as a flight school owner from 2009 - 2015.
07-03-2021, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2
True...
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And frankly... if 50+% of the Regional pilots are in the queue and can't get hired by the Legacy Airlines... is there really a "shortage"?
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And frankly... if 50+% of the Regional pilots are in the queue and can't get hired by the Legacy Airlines... is there really a "shortage"?
07-03-2021, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
I would bet 1/3 of military buds had no interest (and aren’t) flying for the airlines.
Originally Posted by FXLAX
Didn’t they go a step further and actually specify the number of active (current medical) ATPs? I thought I read that somewhere.
https://www.alpa.org/-/media/ALPA/Fi...t-may-2018.pdf
If you cannot login to see it, it says in 2016 there were over 9500 ATP's issued.
And there were 3500-4000 pilots hired by US airlines.
Originally Posted by Oletimer
Why can't those pilots get hired at a Mainline/Legacy Carrier? What are the obstacles? What's hold'em back?
Is the "four year degree" a factor with a lot of Regional pilots?
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