Vacancy Bid 2204-V2
12-21-2021 | 08:51 PM
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12-22-2021 | 06:56 AM
#113
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12-22-2021 | 07:11 AM
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12-22-2021 | 07:54 AM
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I am happy for the early upgrades. It means a pretty significant jump in my seniority in seat and base. I upgraded at 6 years 3 years ago after 4100 hours in the right seat. My only concern is a brand new pilot going narrowbody left seat then going to some of the crazy weird places we go for the first time in the left seat. Almost to a person every FO I’ve flown with is a great pilot and many have years of captain experience at the regionals. No question they’re qualified. I just wouldn’t want to go into San Jose CR at night in the weather with little extra gas with a probie in the right seat if I’d never been there before. Maybe my concerns are unfounded.
12-22-2021 | 08:12 AM
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I think that's fair. But dont you think in the time it takes to upgrade, one would have the opportunity to see the system, learn the ropes, and be able to self-assess if they're ready? It all depends on the person, obviously.. and there's a big experience range as we all know. I would see the previous RJ CAs being ready a bit sooner than Mil and both being a lot sooner than Luftansa CFIs & FTI converts. I guess I'm saying, I think it will all work itself out.
12-22-2021 | 08:13 AM
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I am happy for the early upgrades. It means a pretty significant jump in my seniority in seat and base. I upgraded at 6 years 3 years ago after 4100 hours in the right seat. My only concern is a brand new pilot going narrowbody left seat then going to some of the crazy weird places we go for the first time in the left seat. Almost to a person every FO I’ve flown with is a great pilot and many have years of captain experience at the regionals. No question they’re qualified. I just wouldn’t want to go into San Jose CR at night in the weather with little extra gas with a probie in the right seat if I’d never been there before. Maybe my concerns are unfounded.
in fact that may be an even worse
scenario since the new Captain is also new to the plane.
12-22-2021 | 08:15 AM
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I think that's fair. But dont you think in the time it takes to upgrade, one would have the opportunity to see the system, learn the ropes, and be able to self-assess if they're ready? It all depends on the person, obviously.. and there's a big experience range as we all know. I would see the previous RJ CAs being ready a bit sooner than Mil and both being a lot sooner than Luftansa CFIs & FTI converts. I guess I'm saying, I think it will all work itself out.
12-22-2021 | 08:17 AM
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Agreed. Fully. The worst CAs I flew with were the ones who had spent 15 years in the right seat of a triple. Same scenario. They needed seeing eye FOs.
12-22-2021 | 08:22 AM
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I think you’re probably right. I guess I’m referring to the really junior guys…high 11,000s and low 12,000s. They’ve only been here less than 3 years…less than 2 years in some cases. They also probably didn’t fly at all most of 2020 so subtract a year from that. I don’t think there’s any way they’ve seen all the weird places we go. I can name about 15 just off the top of my head.
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