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Originally Posted by KnightNight (Post 3367329)

When we thinking for next bid? Thought for sure it would be last Friday, but maybe the 777 PW changing things up?

At the absolute minimum the contract is going to drive a vacancy bid very soon, if they want to continue hiring.

The contract stipulates that unfilled vacancies expire after 92 days from the award date for the vacancy bid in which they occurred. So, The November vacancy award unfilleds expire on Wednesday and the December vacancy award unfilleds expire on March 16th.

The contract requires that any vacancy bid be open for a minimum of 10 days.

So those two things together mean that you could theoretically see the next vacancy bid posted as late as Mar 6th (or Mar 4th since that is a Friday), but that would be cutting it really close.

So, I would expect this week or next at the very least

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Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3364812)

I think it has more to do with timing than bases. I believe (i don't know andy) that he must have upgraded at the beginning of a growth wave where that growth made his holding a line rather quick. We are still growing by 180 NB in the next 3 years but I don't know if that is enough for a newhire to upgrade after 12 months and to hold a line in a year. Chainsaw math if we keep hiring 1500 a yr that newhire would have 4500 below him on the list at his 3 yr anniversary. Current reliable lineholder 73 CA is around 8500 on our list of 13000 today... a new contract, better reserve rules, 73 doing some atlantic flying + the ability to cram your schedule with 1 and 2 day domestic, or a severe lack of qualified applicants or lack of LCA's slowing hiring could turn this on a dime. It is a catch 22... if they fix the contract correctly it should incentivize the senior people to flow to where they should be but if they don't the temporary juniority of certain positions COULD continue.

Given current growth as it stands, excluding TDY considerations, what DOH is currently at the G-line for 73 SFO CA & 73 DCA CA?

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Originally Posted by FifiPilot (Post 3393159)

Given current growth as it stands, excluding TDY considerations, what DOH is currently at the G-line for 73 SFO CA & 73 DCA CA?

737sfo ca g line is 9500 Feb 2015 and 737 dca ca was 8900 July 2013 for April.

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Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3393165)

737sfo ca g line is 9500 Feb 2015 and 737 dca ca was 8900 July 2013 for April.

Understood.

Would you care to share G-line of SFO 756 FO & DCA 756 FO?

Thanks..

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Originally Posted by FifiPilot (Post 3393171)

Understood.

Would you care to share G-line of SFO 756 FO & DCA 756 FO?

Thanks..

12300 and 13500

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Originally Posted by Aquaticus (Post 3393178)

12300 and 13500

Last edit to United APC has pilot count at 13,023. What approximate DOH would 12,300 and 13,500 coincide with?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by FifiPilot (Post 3393220)

Last edit to United APC has pilot count at 13,023. What approximate DOH would 12,300 and 13,500 coincide with?
Thanks.

13.5 is probably late Novemberish.

Dude, I gotta ask; what’s your fixation on DOH? It’s completely meaningless.

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Originally Posted by FifiPilot (Post 3393220)

Last edit to United APC has pilot count at 13,023. What approximate DOH would 12,300 and 13,500 coincide with?

Thanks.

I see you are asking a lot of similar questions at a few airlines. I completely understand looking at all your options but DOH and what you could hold 6 months ago vs next Nov will be very different. It is a fluid situation with growth, training, fuel price/retirements, etc. United does their seniority list a little differently. We update it once a year which is the number that I am throwing out there. I think our most junior hire is really 14400 on that list that will be updated July 1st. Overnight on July 2 they will be 13900 give or take on that new list. We also have a few hundred of early buy outs from our covid TA that will drop off the list in the next year or so. Active pilots is probably around 13300. The 737 will be the best bet for fast lineholding and seniority progression based on growth IMO.

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Originally Posted by dmeg13021 (Post 3393253)

Dude, I gotta ask; what’s your fixation on DOH? It’s completely meaningless.

It meant everything for the first 30 years of my career. To every pilot on the list.