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Beaver Hunter 01-07-2022 06:20 PM

Hell at one time Island Air in Hawaii was a 6+ year to DHC-6 Captain. Enjoy the good times while they last.

fadec 01-09-2022 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3348507)
Sorry, didn’t see the sarcasm. But my point was once you get to the point you can hold a captain seat then it’s your choice to stay FO, but not everyone is there. And if you’re not, then being an FO isn’t a choice, isn’t just seniority.

No privilege here.

Wasn’t too long ago it took years to have seniority to hold the lowliest, suckiest captain seat at a lot of places. There are plenty of guys who spent years at Airways and ABX, to name just a few, unable to upgrade. Definitely wasn’t by choice.

A lot of guys just flushed over a decade of of seniority and 4 weeks of vacation to get out of the regional C scale. But these guys don't exist because if you want a half-winger pin with a little "15" on top you have to make it yourself.

A320 01-09-2022 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by fadec (Post 3348474)
Woa. Check your privilege there, buddy. Lots of junior fos can hold captain.


when the Y2Captains start complaining about being on reserve, getting crappy trips, never getting vacations, days off, trip trades, etc.etc. just remember they asked for it..

TFAYD 01-09-2022 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by A320 (Post 3349574)
when the Y2Captains start complaining about being on reserve, getting crappy trips, never getting vacations, days off, trip trades, etc.etc. just remember they asked for it..

that’s true for all junior CA. It just happens to be Y2 now. It was Y10 at one point but the experience (crappy trips etc.) was the same…

ZeroTT 01-09-2022 10:59 AM

Was being a junior captain really that bad with pre-bankruptcy work rules?

hummingbear 01-09-2022 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by A320 (Post 3349574)
when the Y2Captains start complaining about being on reserve, getting crappy trips, never getting vacations, days off, trip trades, etc.etc. just remember they asked for it..

We’re entering an era where very few of us can claim to be doing a job we didn’t willingly volunteer for.

coolbreezy 01-09-2022 01:51 PM

If you are assign 777 or 787 in class when can you bid out of it as a new hire if you don’t want it?

ZeroTT 01-09-2022 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by coolbreezy (Post 3349689)
If you are assign 777 or 787 in class when can you bid out of it as a new hire if you don’t want it?

Two years.

Eagle06 01-09-2022 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by coolbreezy (Post 3349689)
If you are assign 777 or 787 in class when can you bid out of it as a new hire if you don’t want it?

2 years “down” to another FO seat.
When qualified if it’s to upgrade to 320/737 (off probation and hours)

fadec 01-09-2022 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Eagle06 (Post 3349728)
2 years “down” to another FO seat.
When qualified if it’s to upgrade to 320/737 (off probation and hours)

Correct. Bunkies can immediately uograde to narrow body captain, but if you want to be a narrow body FO you've got to put in the time and learn your way around the system for a couple of years. We don't want new guys in those FO spots.


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