I think you guys are arguing opposite sides of the same point. Hopefully everyone on property has this figured out.

The July 1, 2023 seniority list update will be pretty accurate because it won’t include the PVSL1/2 pilots. Last ones off those drop of April 1, 2023.

July 2, 2023 it won’t be accurate any more because 1 pilot retires that day.

It’s an imperfect science to be sure, but there are basically 2 types of pilots- those who try to forecast their seniority progression; the rest are liars.

My only point is DOH is a terrible metric for gauging when you’ll be able to hold a certain seat. Seniority percentage- which yes, is still wildly dependent on industry & airline conditions- is a better way to read the map so to speak.

Why is being a bunkie junior if you get paid the same as the FO in the right seat and don’t have much to do?

Being bunkie is not junior, being a RESERVE bunkie is junior. One of the best parts of international is the commutability. Many pilots commute up day of, fly night departure to Europe and return two days later just after lunch then commute home. Contrast that with 18 days on call for global reserve with no scheduled line in sight and living in a crash pad.

Are you on call tho on a RDO? I thought they can only roll you into those days for mechanics etc , that they can’t just call you in the middle of a RDO block? I have reads the contract but it’s a bit confusing

or, if you live 45 minutes from the airport having the month off month after month becuase all the open flying gets picked up.

WB reserve living in base is possibly the best job at the airline. (3 trips in 8 months for me)

To add onto this, most people prefer productivity and maximum pay. A 25 hour IRO trip will usually go senior to a 18 hour flying seat trip with the same footprint. My seniority pretty much guaranteed that I’d be IRO unless it was Christmas Day or if I flew one of the really unproductive trips. It was still a great job, but there were some downsides. You’re always getting 1st break, landings class pays like an extremely unproductive 2 day, and the training department never buys the IRO seat.

So they can only roll your day off RDO for an international trip and that would have to happen at the time of assignment. Example, you have Friday and sat on reserve and expect to get released at 1500 on Saturday. They assign you a 3 day Europe Friday - Sunday and restore the day off they took. That restoration will be on the next available day of reserve you had. Does that help?

That doesn’t sound terrible if you live in base

he said 18 days on call because you are literally on reserve 18 days a month. RDOs are some of your days off, and then getting rolled could be an issue, but that’s not what he was talking about