Do bunkie hours count toward the 500?

Yup. But they’d be hard to come by on reserve, particularly in today’s environment. You probably wouldn’t find anyone just skimming off probation that also had enough hours.

Unless you can hold NB CA first…

No idea what you’re saying here. Did you mean WB FO you’ve got to put your time in? Bunkies can upgrade immediately?!:confused: Are you applying previous airline experience to UA? Sounds like it. I too experienced another airline (hence my screen name) where the IROs/bunkies were senior and were paid more. Not the case here at UA! New hires that choose the WB will be bunkies for over a decade or until they upgrade. No thanks.:cool:

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He is merely pointing out the absurdity that a new hire selecting the 777 can potentially upgrade to 737 CA BEFORE they could legally bid 737 FO.

Very true. Strange world.

Almost half the seniority list retires in a decade

What’s DOH for the most junior wide body capt in SFO?

DOH is an inaccurate measurement, because a single data point varies so much by individual based on hiring cycles. For example, jr WB CA today is around 5500. At current forecast, that will take me about 13-14 years to get to. Some will get there much faster. I think the current 5500 seniority pilot has been on property a lot longer than that. So depending on hire date, it will take each pilot different lengths of employment to get to the same seniority percentage.

You can check your own seniority progression forecast to see how long it will take you to get to that point. Of course there’s no guarantee the jr WB CA will still be at 5500 by the time you get there.

Also keep in mind that that 5500 seniority WB captain is actually around 4800 due to the retirements we had between July of last year and today. His (and yes-it is a he) seniority will be updated again in July when we do our annual seniority list update and thus the most junior WB captain will not be in the 5000 range but rather in the high 4000 range. Make sense?