133 Unfilled Captain Bids and other stats
12-15-2021 | 07:44 AM
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133 Unfilled Captain Bids and other stats
Here’s the summary of the vacancy bid.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
12-15-2021 | 07:48 AM
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Just buy Spirit then the NB fleet is staffed.
I’m kidding…
I’m kidding…
12-15-2021 | 09:04 AM
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12-15-2021 | 09:06 AM
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Here’s the summary of the vacancy bid.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
12-15-2021 | 09:13 AM
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And a massive amount of money, both in acquisition and ongoing costs integrating all those pilots on their current longevity on mainline pay scales. Acquisition costs of a $1.8bn company (plus the acquisition premium), plus their debt, plus the fees owed to terminate the DCI/AE/AS contracts…I just don’t see how that would be financially viable, even if Kirby had the biggest stones on earth.
12-15-2021 | 09:20 AM
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Here’s the summary of the vacancy bid.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
1,241 total bids not filled
133 unfilled CAPTAIN bids in LAX, SFO, DCA, EWR.
170 unfilled 777/787 FO in SFO, DCA, EWR
2 year Captains in DEN (used to be 2 years just to get FO in Denver)
Another bid supposed to be out in January or February.
New hires to likely be awarded 787/777 FO in new hire training.
Everyone with 500 hours on property and off probation can hold Captain.
In 2023 alone we take on 157 new airplanes, the same number that Spirit Airlines has.
None of this counts 787 deliveries not announced because of the delivery pause at Boeing.
Any ideas how we get out of this pilot shortage? I can’t imagine this doesn’t affect other airlines significantly in the next couple years as we hire their pilots.
12-15-2021 | 09:43 AM
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Can someone enlighten me on why 777/787 may be desirable/undesirable for a new hire. Are these slots going unfilled because people are jumping fleet types to upgrade to captain or is life as an FO on 777/787 not so great?
