UAL Reserve Rules
05-18-2022, 01:21 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by Hedley
It is the company’s job to keep the wheels on by having assets in place to cover contingencies. Reserve pilots are one of those assets. Reserve is a necessity, and field standby is probably here to stay. That’s not to say that contractual language doesn’t need major improvements. Allow the company flexibility, but make unpopular options costly. Field standby serves a purpose, but language should be in place that encourages the company to minimize how it is used and to compensate pilots when it is.
the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.
05-18-2022, 01:29 PM
#32
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I live in base (SFO) but 2 hours from the airport in "normal" traffic. Last week I had the honor of sitting a 12:00 FSB. For 4 hours of availability (I wasn't used) I was rewarded with 6 hours in the car. 2 hours to the airport and 4 hours to get home all with $5.50 a gallon gas and $14 in bridge tolls making it real treat. FSB needs to die a quick, painful death.
05-18-2022, 01:42 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
the cost for FSB and short call needs to be raised significantly for the company - to the point that they will only use it if they truly have to.
the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.
the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.
05-18-2022, 02:11 PM
#34
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Originally Posted by TFAYD
the cost for FSB and short call needs to be raised significantly for the company - to the point that they will only use it if they truly have to.
the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.
the question is where that price point is. If it comes down to cancelling a global flight I suspect they won’t even blink to shell out 5-10 hours of override / premium pay.
05-19-2022, 05:57 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by JetDoc
I live in base (SFO) but 2 hours from the airport in "normal" traffic. Last week I had the honor of sitting a 12:00 FSB. For 4 hours of availability (I wasn't used) I was rewarded with 6 hours in the car. 2 hours to the airport and 4 hours to get home all with $5.50 a gallon gas and $14 in bridge tolls making it real treat. FSB needs to die a quick, painful death.
05-19-2022, 06:41 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by Aldo Raine
Absolutely agree. FSB is not necessary. I would rather get reassigned to cover something mid-pairing when I am ALREADY at work, getting paid, than to commute or drive in for FSB and wasting several hours of my day to not only NOT get paid, but it actually COST ME MONEY to go to work. Absurd.
05-19-2022, 10:44 AM
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Ok, Ok. I should have said not get "used" as opposed to "paid", but I think you guys actually know what I meant. Coming in for a FSB or commuting to short-call and sitting around sucks. FSB can go away entirely, and short-calls can be reduced substantially via strategic pay- and day-off protected reassignments.
Just trying to say there is a better way.
In JetDoc's example, it clearly cost him quite a bit of money and time for nothing.
Just trying to say there is a better way.
In JetDoc's example, it clearly cost him quite a bit of money and time for nothing.
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