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Old time flyer 05-31-2023 04:10 PM

Question for those who might know.

I recently started at another airline and turned frown my UA interview because of this. I’m kicking myself for not looking at all my options. When I go back into the app, it says good luck with your future endeavors or something along those lines.

What is the turn around time before it’ll allow me to reapply? When I try to start a new app, it doesn’t progress past the first personal tab after I enter in my info. Appears to be tied to my certificate number more than anything because when I change it by a digit, it allows me to continue filling out the app.

BleedSwap 06-02-2023 11:59 AM

Can anyone attest to how the hogan is being used these days? If you get the hogan are you still guaranteed to get an interview?

TOGALOCK 06-02-2023 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by BleedSwap (Post 3645422)
Can anyone attest to how the hogan is being used these days? If you get the hogan are you still guaranteed to get an interview?

From what I’ve been told by people in the know, it’s all a point system now. Your app gets scored with a point system, hogan gets scored on a point system, and the interview gets scored on a point system. If the point total for all three passes a predetermined threshold you’ll receive a CJO provided the review board doesn’t object for whatever reason. So, in theory, you could completely bomb the hogan, but as long as you have a strong and competitive app and perform well on the interview you can still get a CJO.

In other words, the hogan is now being used as part of your “whole package”, not as a make or break event.

ThatChecks 06-07-2023 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by TOGALOCK (Post 3645455)
From what I’ve been told by people in the know, it’s all a point system now. Your app gets scored with a point system, hogan gets scored on a point system, and the interview gets scored on a point system. If the point total for all three passes a predetermined threshold you’ll receive a CJO provided the review board doesn’t object for whatever reason. So, in theory, you could completely bomb the hogan, but as long as you have a strong and competitive app and perform well on the interview you can still get a CJO.

In other words, the hogan is now being used as part of your “whole package”, not as a make or break event.

With that being said, I guess the odds for a sub-1000turbine part 121 FO getting an interview are lower now than before? I'm going to the RTAG Convention in October, I'm a veteran but wasn't in the aviation field. I estimate i'll be around 700 turbine by that point in time. I was hoping that being at a veteran convention, that maybe that would help out. But I suppose not as much as I had hoped based on your post.

Mscott 06-08-2023 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDog140 (Post 3475386)
In the employment references section, are they looking for references from each of your current and past employers or just your general references that you have flown with or can vouch for your character. It looks like they need the dates of employment for each reference but some of these have moved on to other jobs. I have emailed pilot recruiting but checking here while I wait for an answer.

Sorry if this has been answered already but I can’t find an answer.

Has anyone got an answer for this? I’m filling out my app and not really sure what to put here, or who to put?

Thanks

Otterbox 06-08-2023 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by ThatChecks (Post 3647651)
With that being said, I guess the odds for a sub-1000turbine part 121 FO getting an interview are lower now than before? I'm going to the RTAG Convention in October, I'm a veteran but wasn't in the aviation field. I estimate i'll be around 700 turbine by that point in time. I was hoping that being at a veteran convention, that maybe that would help out. But I suppose not as much as I had hoped based on your post.

Odds are higher than ever. 700hrs turbine is right around the sweet spot if you work for one of United’s competitors or a competitor wholly owned regional.

ThatChecks 06-09-2023 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 3648043)
Odds are higher than ever. 700hrs turbine is right around the sweet spot if you work for one of United’s competitors or a competitor wholly owned regional.

Wew! You’re gonna get me too excited

Bearhawk23 06-09-2023 03:05 PM

How soon after taking the Hogan are people hearing back about getting an invite to interview?

Andy Dufresne 06-09-2023 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Bearhawk23 (Post 3648276)
How soon after taking the Hogan are people hearing back about getting an invite to interview?

I heard back the next day. I think that’s pretty common currently, but may vary.

CAirBear 06-10-2023 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3648308)
I heard back the next day. I think that’s pretty common currently, but may vary.

Exactly. Folks, the Hogan is NOT a jeopardy event anymore. You will get the “schedule your interview” email the very next morning regardless of how you “did” on the Hogan.

They simply use the Hogan results (during your interview and review board) to take into consideration as an overall “big picture”. Don’t stress out about it like how it used to be.


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