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09-10-2022 | 09:04 AM

#101

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Originally Posted by UALinIAH

I guess you don’t believe your own union?

https://simpleflying.com/nearly-8k-n...the-last-year/

Those pilots aren’t going to be ready for the regionals in the next 2 years at least on average….

09-10-2022 | 11:08 PM

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Those pilots aren’t going to be ready for the regionals in the next 2 years at least on average….

And please tell us all how these ATP-MEL pilots aren’t going to be ready for the regionals in 2 years?

09-11-2022 | 04:46 AM

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And please tell us all how these ATP-MEL pilots aren’t going to be ready for the regionals in 2 years?

I agree, unless people are privately funding their ATP for some reason. Surely you’d just go to the regionals and they will do it for you rather than paying a flight school? You need 1500 hours to get an ATP so they should be ready by time they get their atp

09-11-2022 | 05:03 AM

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Those pilots aren’t going to be ready for the regionals in the next 2 years at least on average….

Did you actually read the article? ATP-MEL. Airline Transport Pilot - Multi Engine Land. They have the minimum rating requirements to fly passengers NOW.

09-11-2022 | 05:17 AM

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Did you actually read the article? ATP-MEL. Airline Transport Pilot - Multi Engine Land. They have the minimum rating requirements to fly passengers NOW.

I have and but going straight to the data from the FAA says otherwise….. 8k ATP-MEL issued is a bit high. This data produced by the FAA goes up to 2021, shows about about 5K ATPs, 9k Commercial certs being issued. I am still looking for data for the current year 2022.

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/fi...men-stats.xlsx

Even ALPA doesn’t claim 8k, ATP certificated pilots were created. They just claim only 8k Newell certificated pilots were created.

https://www.alpa.org/news-and-events...past-12-months

09-11-2022 | 11:25 AM

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look at the trend in student certs. It’ll take a while but we’re headed in the right direction.

09-11-2022 | 12:36 PM

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look at the trend in student certs. It’ll take a while but we’re headed in the right direction.

No disagreement on this point. I am just defending my belief of the Simpliflying article posted earlier misquoting ALPA.

09-12-2022 | 06:36 PM

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Skywest just proposed $90 an hour for first year FO’s.

I’m sure ol’ Chip is just doing it to wind down his 550 plane airline. Same reason they signed new CPA’s last year despite the shortage.

09-13-2022 | 05:07 AM

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Ok. Do you like numbers? They are on pace for 3000 resignations in 2022 out of a 5200 list. Losing 1600 of their 2400 total captains in 2022 alone. Most of the newhire replacements are waiting for ioe for 6 months or more. For any regional training department that is impossible but the really scary thing is the quality will suffer and safety along with it.