How much TT time does United want?
06-25-2023, 08:07 AM
#221
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Originally Posted by OkayOkay
I think you missed the point of this thread, I’m just trying to help others who might be interviewing soon I know I appreciated all info as I prepared for my interview. Being a qualified pilot and a decent human being- it’s pretty easy to do both.
06-25-2023, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KSwift76
Yep.... I've had to "assist" with basic professional flying stuff more in the last year than the previous 5 yrs. It often is like I'm giving OE.( I'm not an LCP). Sign of the times I guess...
Welcome to the RJ world! We started seeing this trend starting in 2016. As an LCA at the RJ level it was extremely common to see students with 50-100 hours of OE. Even had a few get their consolidation done while still on OE.
IMHO this was all caused by multiple triggers….age 65/stagnation, less teenage kids interested in aviation, cost of entry to fly, general aviation shrinking, poor pay at the regionals (return on investment) and many more.
Raising the retirement age will shrink the pool even more IMHO. What you are seeing is the new reality in aviation.
06-25-2023, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by flynd94
Welcome to the RJ world! We started seeing this trend starting in 2016. As an LCA at the RJ level it was extremely common to see students with 50-100 hours of OE. Even had a few get their consolidation done while still on OE.
IMHO this was all caused by multiple triggers….age 65/stagnation, less teenage kids interested in aviation, cost of entry to fly, general aviation shrinking, poor pay at the regionals (return on investment) and many more.
Raising the retirement age will shrink the pool even more IMHO. What you are seeing is the new reality in aviation.
IMHO this was all caused by multiple triggers….age 65/stagnation, less teenage kids interested in aviation, cost of entry to fly, general aviation shrinking, poor pay at the regionals (return on investment) and many more.
Raising the retirement age will shrink the pool even more IMHO. What you are seeing is the new reality in aviation.
06-25-2023, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
These same people can upgrade after just one year on property and be paired with extremely green new hires. I guess that’s why we did away with the short course for upgrades and just announced that all new captains have to go back to the sim after 6 months instead of the current 9 month cycle. I’d expect both new hire and upgrade OE times to significantly trend up. Times have definitely changed.
06-26-2023, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Otterbox
Scott Kirby is okay with plucking RJ FOs with 700hrs in a jet after they get their ATP restriction removed.
06-27-2023, 01:10 PM
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This is insane
Originally Posted by flynd94
I hear you. My sim partner last August for my upgrade had 2500TT, no turbine PIC and had a great habit of tuning out when he was the PM. Many a talks were had by the PI’s.
06-27-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bamike
As an RJ captain with a spotless check ride record, college degree, no blemishes, I can't get a call from United but they're hiring 2500 hour people who don't pay attention in sim training? What is going on in HR over there?
06-27-2023, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bamike
As an RJ captain with a spotless check ride record, college degree, no blemishes, I can't get a call from United but they're hiring 2500 hour people who don't pay attention in sim training? What is going on in HR over there?
I was hired in 2019 and if it wasn’t for the CPP/Aviate program I was in the same boat. Until I entered the program I didn’t get a peep from UA.
06-27-2023, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bamike
As an RJ captain with a spotless check ride record, college degree, no blemishes, I can't get a call from United but they're hiring 2500 hour people who don't pay attention in sim training? What is going on in HR over there?
Seems pulling regional pilots isn’t in the majors best interest, at least from what I’ve read
06-27-2023, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by bamike
As an RJ captain with a spotless check ride record, college degree, no blemishes, I can't get a call from United but they're hiring 2500 hour people who don't pay attention in sim training? What is going on in HR over there?
5200TT
2500 Turbine
1700 Turbine PIC
Interestingly enough, 0 jet time...but plenty of time in clapped out ATR-42s and 72s.
Keep updating, I'm sure you'll hear something soon enough.
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