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01110011 12-04-2022 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Jb97 (Post 3543507)
MC Letter stated we will be adjusting our negotiating positions - the opportunity to agree to a subpar ask has been overcome I believe. “Waiting for the market” is a double edged sword. The company’s concern about agreeing to a deal that would not ratify (based on a subsequent agreement at another carrier) appear well-reasoned.

Imo if the company was being completely honest with their rationale there would’ve been a snap up in TA1.

Jb97 12-04-2022 01:38 PM

?????
 

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 3543469)
Interesting, who exactly do you think “ALPA” is? For the animus and separation you’ve adopted, what do you think is owed to you, and by whom?

A repeating theme I see in your posts is “me” and “them”. Could it be you’re just not cut out to be part of a labor union?

Let me guess, less than three years on the property and former Air Force, current Guard baby?

One can either be former Air Force or a “Guard baby” but not both - you either are careless with your words or ignorant of what a “Guard baby” is.

Jb97 12-04-2022 01:46 PM

Agreed
 

Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3543509)
Imo if the company was being completely honest with their rationale there would’ve been a snap up in TA1.

Certainly not defending their wait and see approach - just saying once the DAL AIP became public in summary the bar moved much higher.
I know the Delta folks are proud of their process. - IMHO they don’t get this far at this time without the failed attempts at UAL and AMR.

UALfoLIFE 12-04-2022 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Jb97 (Post 3543507)
MC Letter stated we will be adjusting our negotiating positions - the opportunity to agree to a subpar ask has been overcome I believe. “Waiting for the market” is a double edged sword. The company’s concern about agreeing to a deal that would not ratify (based on a subsequent agreement at another carrier) appear well-reasoned.

Well reasoned!? Waiting for the market ultimately cost them, big time. The company massively under shot this with their low ball offer. Had they not come in so low they could have easily had us locked into a massively sub par contract compared to delta. All facilitated by our limp d!ck MEC.

TyWebb 12-04-2022 03:19 PM

So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

WarEagle28 12-04-2022 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3543565)
So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

if the UAL MEC writes anything, it will be 1% higher than American

TyWebb 12-04-2022 03:32 PM

https://media.tenor.com/61-hIsyqKqMA...ttle-fight.gif

Snooter 12-04-2022 03:58 PM

Not saying he doesn’t have a point with his stereotype, just saying there are some Air Force bubbas here that are hard core union. Solidarity!

JoePatroni 12-04-2022 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by TyWebb (Post 3543565)
So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

The Delta contract is limited to two snap ups.

rekatron 12-04-2022 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by DashTrash (Post 3543297)
I am just shaking my head…. It seems like 90+% on here are so focused on pay rates. That is how dumb decisions happen!!! Take the shiny object, and not see the forest through the trees.

Pay rates are important, but not as important as work rules!!! I will gladly sacrifice pay rates for significant advances in Sections 5 & 20. Obviously zero concessions regarding scope!!! To me R & I is more important than pay rates!!!

Well, my priorites are the pay rates, and i'd gladly throw R&I under the bus for it. You vote your way and I'll vote mine.


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