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12-04-2022 | 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jb97

MC Letter stated we will be adjusting our negotiating positions - the opportunity to agree to a subpar ask has been overcome I believe. “Waiting for the market” is a double edged sword. The company’s concern about agreeing to a deal that would not ratify (based on a subsequent agreement at another carrier) appear well-reasoned.

Imo if the company was being completely honest with their rationale there would’ve been a snap up in TA1.

12-04-2022 | 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Interesting, who exactly do you think “ALPA” is? For the animus and separation you’ve adopted, what do you think is owed to you, and by whom?

A repeating theme I see in your posts is “me” and “them”. Could it be you’re just not cut out to be part of a labor union?

Let me guess, less than three years on the property and former Air Force, current Guard baby?

One can either be former Air Force or a “Guard baby” but not both - you either are careless with your words or ignorant of what a “Guard baby” is.

12-04-2022 | 01:46 PM

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Agreed

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Originally Posted by 01110011

Imo if the company was being completely honest with their rationale there would’ve been a snap up in TA1.

Certainly not defending their wait and see approach - just saying once the DAL AIP became public in summary the bar moved much higher.
I know the Delta folks are proud of their process. - IMHO they don’t get this far at this time without the failed attempts at UAL and AMR.

12-04-2022 | 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jb97

Well reasoned!? Waiting for the market ultimately cost them, big time. The company massively under shot this with their low ball offer. Had they not come in so low they could have easily had us locked into a massively sub par contract compared to delta. All facilitated by our limp d!ck MEC.

12-04-2022 | 03:19 PM

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So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

12-04-2022 | 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TyWebb

So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

if the UAL MEC writes anything, it will be 1% higher than American

12-04-2022 | 03:32 PM

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12-04-2022 | 03:58 PM

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Not saying he doesn’t have a point with his stereotype, just saying there are some Air Force bubbas here that are hard core union. Solidarity!

12-04-2022 | 05:03 PM

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So what happens if you all get a clause for 1% more than Delta like they have on y’all? I’d like to imagine it would be a Anchor Man style fight.

The Delta contract is limited to two snap ups.

12-04-2022 | 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DashTrash

I am just shaking my head…. It seems like 90+% on here are so focused on pay rates. That is how dumb decisions happen!!! Take the shiny object, and not see the forest through the trees.

Pay rates are important, but not as important as work rules!!! I will gladly sacrifice pay rates for significant advances in Sections 5 & 20. Obviously zero concessions regarding scope!!! To me R & I is more important than pay rates!!!

Well, my priorites are the pay rates, and i'd gladly throw R&I under the bus for it. You vote your way and I'll vote mine.