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Old 12-03-2022 | 03:50 AM
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18 hour callout for LCR sounds pretty sweet.
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Old 12-03-2022 | 04:26 AM
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Well we clearly see what not throwing a punch gets you vs actually using the weight of a unified pilot group to get what you deserve. What still sickens me is 6% of pilots voted for the Tumi Turd, do they really value their labor so poorly that they would accept a surrender, Tumi wasn’t a concessionary it was a surrender contract? And the LEC wastes of space who voted to send it to the rank and file…they were either so incompetent they didn’t read it, or they were so out of touch they thought it was a good deal, either way I’m not sure what’s worse. Actually doubling down and not resigning is worse. We are a laughing stock of the industry and actually set the bar so low for DL, we ended up hurting their negotiating position. Way to go UAL MEC. Any any LEC and remaining MEC who were involved in Tumi turd need to take a long hard look in the mirror and evaluate all the decision they have made in their lives.
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Old 12-03-2022 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Dear Christ stop. Forget the rates. Stop looking at rates. Everything else is what matters. Looking at rates is why we have the moronic distinction that allows the company to staff widebody flying with less reserves than necessary. It's why we allow pilots to sit at the airport on reserve. Etc.

Stop looking at rates.


Do they matter? Yes. But they're the last thing you should give a **** about when comparing deltas AIP and our contract.

Deltas CURRENT contract obliterates us as is.


THIS x1000000
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Old 12-03-2022 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OneplusF
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Why not have both? In those todays market where the information is out there and every new first officer has 3 offers you have to compete and be close in rates and qol
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Old 12-03-2022 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
Why not have both? In those todays market where the information is out there and every new first officer has 3 offers you have to compete and be close in rates and qol
YES. Rates AND work rules AND Scope AND Retirement matter. I don’t get why so many of you keep saying rates are not a big deal.

Good leads the way! I mean “Delta Leads the Way!”
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Old 12-03-2022 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Pilot4000
18 hour callout for LCR sounds pretty sweet.
even if we got 18 hour lcr, it wouldn’t matter because we could still get hit with short call and FSB, every single day. If there’s no protection against unlimited SC/FSB Conversion, it doesn’t matter what the long call callout time is.
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Old 12-03-2022 | 05:16 AM
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Has the united MEC responded yet?
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Old 12-03-2022 | 05:32 AM
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Nope........

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Old 12-03-2022 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
If the company wants to fill new hire classes they better beat these rates quickly. Not sure why anyone would want to come to United with Delta having pay 34% mor than us. Better call Boeing and tell them to get rid of some of those orders because we cant’ staff them.
You’re thinking of it wrong, UAL will have no problem filling classes. All the regional guys and/or LCC’s still want to come over because current UAL contract is better than what they have now.

Anywho. I hope y’all get a killer deal as well, as well as AA. It’s time we as pilots took back some of what they took away in the early 2000’s
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Old 12-03-2022 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage
You’re thinking of it wrong, UAL will have no problem filling classes. All the regional guys and/or LCC’s still want to come over because current UAL contract is better than what they have now.

Anywho. I hope y’all get a killer deal as well, as well as AA. It’s time we as pilots took back some of what they took away in the early 2000’s
Retention matters too otherwise you’re just wasting cost of training.
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