Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 3572326)

Do you think it unreasonable to pay profit sharing out based on a % of flight pay for the year, regardless of the time(calendar year rule)?

Do you think a "new hire who onboarded in the 1st week of Jan doesn't deserve to get his share of PS because his contribution was meaningless?

Is your thinking biased because, if PS is paid out like Delta, you might get fewer shekels at the expense of the "new hire"?

Do you think your view is considered as "pulling up the ladder"?

If every pilot thought like you seem to, would you ever make strides to better the profession?

Do you think the way UAL does it is fair/righteous/respectful to all employees?

Do you think, "Well I got screwed, therefore let's continue to foist this on the new guys"?

Did I ask if maybe you getting a few more/less pennies in your pocket might bias your thinking?

As a Delta guy, just some of the thoughts/questions that crossed my mind after reading your less than fleshed out comment.

I hope your new "team" looks at the bar that Delta sets with our new TA, and negotiates up from there....the profession will be better for it.

PS...and FFS, if you don't get DC on profit sharing ...get it !!!

Originally Posted by johnwick (Post 3572699)

I suppose my comment could be construed as you described. However, the point I was trying to make was that I am surprised and shocked that a pilot new on property would “complain” about something such as profit sharing. You just won the equivalent to “airline pilot jackpot.” Have some humility, strive to better the profession throughout your career, but don’t whine about a benefit that many of us on property couldn’t capitalize on either. Know your audience. That’s all I’m saying. And no, “pulling up the ladder” is always a bad thing and a gross mischaracterization.

Originally Posted by johnwick (Post 3572699)

I suppose my comment could be construed as you described. However, the point I was trying to make was that I am surprised and shocked that a pilot new on property would “complain” about something such as profit sharing. You just won the equivalent to “airline pilot jackpot.” Have some humility, strive to better the profession throughout your career, but don’t whine about a benefit that many of us on property couldn’t capitalize on either. Know your audience. That’s all I’m saying. And no, “pulling up the ladder” is always a bad thing and a gross mischaracterization.

Originally Posted by JTwift (Post 3572752)

i’m not *****ing about the profit sharing, but I am disappointed. I’m now finally starting to “earn” the right to get it next year, even though I worked my butt off nearly the entire 2022 (but not quite enough to earn PS, I guess).

I want us to get better mainly because I want more pilots to choose United, which will help us grow and make things better for everyone.

that’s the same reason I want better reserve rules. I’m not on reserve anymore, but I definitely haven’t forgotten how much it sucked. I don’t want anyone else to go through that. Also, it makes life better for the senior/line holding people (especially captains). When people upgrade into reserve and we don’t have anymore unfilled CA vacancies, you’ll quit getting those 90 hour lines and you’ll have more ability to trade/drop, etc.

I don’t get the “I got mine” crowd. Help others get better and it’ll trickle up, so to speak.

Originally Posted by johnwick (Post 3572193)

Delta is hiring.

Originally Posted by OneplusF (Post 3572946)

What a truly idiotic thing to say! You do realize you’re arguing against the interest of your own pilot group by not wanting to prorate PS, right? But your bruised ego only let you utter this caveman grunt reaction.

Originally Posted by johnwick (Post 3573346)

I wasn’t arguing the point of prorated PS. I was simply inferring that a person new on property shouldn’t be b*****ing about not getting PS when he/she should be glad they won the lottery. And I don’t even get the “bruised ego” comment. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Originally Posted by StewBlu (Post 3573421)

You used inferring incorrectly.

Originally Posted by johnwick (Post 3573430)

Implying rather??