PS) (ironically!). I betting around 2-3% for our 2022 Profit sharing. It’s something.. but nothing compared to the Industry Leading Contract 2023 we deserve and will hopefully have by June~

I am 2007 United Hire. Definitely had to pay for own lodging from indoc through qual training.

However, that did not factor into my decision when I looking at multiple offers from CAL/DAL/UAL.

Likewise, whether or not I would receive profit sharing did not factor in my decision. I never plan on getting it just like I don’t plan on getting Social Security when I retire.

I’ll take better pay rates and work rules over profit sharing any day.

Motch’s advice to present a resolution is the correct path forward. Complaining about it here is akin to shaking your fist at the rain. It won’t get you anywhere and you’ll still be wet.

This times 1,000 ^^^^. I will never understand someone being ****ed at someone else because “they got a better deal.” If you got a 777 bid as a new hire….good for you. Have a great attitude and willingness to learn and it will be good. It’s not 1990 anymore.

As far as their “days worked” comment, you can’t get off probation until 12 bid periods AND 165 days worked. And days waiting for IOE don’t count.

so maybe there’s something to that. Anyway…I’ll bring it up to my reps….when I’m off probation…..and when I get some reps.

what’s that old saying- “You only know what you know, and you don’t know what you don’t know!
I always knew about the Delta new hire Hotel thing..did NOT know that Legacy United did it too. Wonder when it changed or if it was a result of the merger, and CAL having it while UAL didn’t.

^This^
There seems to be an attitude from the millennial generation (many.. but not all!) that they want what someone else has- now! Not waiting till it’s their turn, but now.

From a Union point, that doesn’t bode well for the future.
As a side note for the new pilots reading this who might be “pi&&ed off” next month- keep in mind that almost EVERY Capt now is spending twice what they use to on food & drink while on the overnight. Why? Cause it’s tradition to pay for that when flying with a probie! And it’s something that (probably) 98% of us do without blinking an eye! (And many senior FO’s occasionally do it to). Haven’t seen any Captain on here F’ing complain about that.

For ALL our new pilots.
F’ing CONGRATS. Ya made it to the Major League!
Enjoy, have fun.. learn.
But understand that everything (both good and bad) has a price and a history.
Change will come from within, and change takes some time.
Get involved~ (not just on a bs “for pleasure/laughable” forum)

Oh, and
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally and
Fly The Contract

Motch

Not having reps is an issue, being on probation isn’t. A probationary pilot is just as much a United pilot as the rest of us. New hires should feel free to contact reps and voice their opinion. Currently probationary pilots can’t vote or participate in profit sharing because that is what is written in the contract. Without enough people becoming more engaged in their union, nothing is going to change.

So all of this folks on LTD…not producing an ounce of revenue get cut out of the proffy. I think that’s pretty fair. Thoughts?

Maybe even those full time 90+ hr ALPA reps who never fly the line. Might motivate them to fly once or twice between their duties.

no complaints, makes sense to me.

So…when do I see a some money?! 🫠

I’m pretty sure the folks on LTD (myself included) won’t get profit sharing, at least on their LTD payments. LTD payments don’t come from UAL.

2022 was my first year on LTD. I had sick leave in January and vacation payout in September, so I may get profit sharing on that but I’m not expecting it on my LTD payments.

I’ll answer this for sure in a month or so.